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08-28-2002, 10:38 AM
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And if I were Becca, I'd have ripped Jesse, et al, a new one for going over my head like that. I'm talking PUBLIC APOLOGY.
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Agreed - especially because it looks like she is going to be President next year - perhaps "the regulators" are graduating but I would want to have some clarity and closure on their behavior before next year!
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08-28-2002, 02:24 PM
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I think Mara thinks a little too highly of herself. Anyone who has to go on a website and brag about their money and their "brattiness" obviously has some issues. I think she is just trying to make herself to look like some rich snobby beautiful girl, but I think she acts bitchy in every show and needs a new haircut and clothes before she goes around bragging about how she is some spoiled daddy's girl princess. Sorry, I just can't stand her, that girl needs to get a clue, hopefully now she sees what an idiot she appears to be on television.
I actually do feel sorry for Jordan, the only thing I can't stand is how Mara always tries to act like her, mindlessly agreeing with everything she says because she wants to come off as a hardass.
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08-28-2002, 03:33 PM
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Oh don't be so hard on Mara. She gets to do whatever she wants with
her 15 minutes. At least she seems to be having some fun with it.
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08-29-2002, 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by chideltjen
anyone wanna PM me a brief summary of what happened in last nights show?
i don't have cable nor internet access at home so i couldn't chat last night. (stupid phone lines.)
I don't really trust MTV's episode summaries cuz they wouldn't know greek life if it smacked them in the face... (you decide if the pun was intended)
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SLYVIA SLAPPED ME!!!!!
Well I watched it yesterday and I do think they were very disrespectful to leave the ceremony. And what's bad is that they didn't see what they did wrong. That just goes back to home training if you ask me.
I really like Mara but I do feel she is out of line on this one. And her "I don't give a damn" attitude would of made me act like Jessie also. But I agree with you guys, Jessie was out of line to go behind Becca's back and come at the pledges like that. She would of got a cussing out from me also.
Like I said YES Jordan isn't a saint and she's full of drama, but I still like her. She seems to have a good heart and from how upset she gets when the sisters confront her on her behavior, she seems to care what they think(but she tries to hide it) but Jordan said EXACTLY what I would of said after I had hung up the phone to both to them "F*** you and F*** you" She shouldn't of used the phone in a public setting, but she didn't have to stay for that meeting either, at least she did that.
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08-29-2002, 03:50 AM
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OH YEAH
Has anyone thought about closing this LONNNNGGG thread and us starting another one to get ready for the finale and all the posts we are gonna make? Just a thought.
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08-29-2002, 04:17 AM
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can someone please PM me a summary too? i was at a cabin and missed it!
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08-29-2002, 01:37 PM
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hmm, well this is interesting.
first off, let me say that all my other posts on the mtv forum were in a context. i said i like being a brat in response to someone who told me to take the silver spoon out of my mouth and go camping. it sounds silly, i know, but it was taken out of context on this board. so yeah.
the other thing to keep in mind, is that sigma was actually paying for very little this quarter, which is one of their reasons for agreeing to be filmed in the first place.
just thought i would add some input here. other than that, i am glad you are all watching, even though you seem to disagree with my actions and behaviors, it is good to get an outside, and greek perspective.
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08-29-2002, 02:09 PM
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how do we know you are actually mara?
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08-29-2002, 02:16 PM
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well i guess you don't. you're gonna have to take my word for it, because there's not really any way for me to prove it to you.
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08-29-2002, 02:24 PM
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in response to ucla girl: "Oh yeah…why was Mara proud that she was a brat? I know many girls that are considered to be JAPs, but our peers do not consider them to be brats or snobs. Being a JAP is really having pride in your heritage, looking good, and having social responsibility. Too many people have taken the meaning of the term from the mid 1950’s and completely turned it around to mean snobby brats who are so self-involved that they couldn’t care less if they dishonored and embarrassed their friends and family on national TV (sorry Mara but you did that!). "
i am proud to be a JAP, although i don't think the term has anything to do with looking good. other than that, those were all the things i was saying when i said that i am a JAP and proud of it. my heritage, my life in general, those are the things i am proud of. also, my family and friends were all extremely proud that i stood up for what i thought was right, rather than just following the crowd and doing what i was told. respect has to be earned, and it's not earned just because you have a pin, letters, or even an office. it is earned through actions and responsibilty and the way you treat others. so, although you may not consider my actions to be correct, you certainly cannot speak for my friends and family, most of whom think that greek life is petty and feel that the sigma sisterhood did not prove them wrong with this particular incident
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08-29-2002, 02:24 PM
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Well, the pledgemarasl, Why did you decide to rush and join SigmaAETT and not go through normal recruitment with the national groups?
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08-29-2002, 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by pledgemarasl
i am proud to be a JAP, although i don't think the term has anything to do with looking good. other than that, those were all the things i was saying when i said that i am a JAP and proud of it.>>
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I really don't understand how you can continue to use such a derogitory term with such pride.
I am Jewish, and there is nothing remotely proud-worthy to be stated about being a JAP, unless you like to admit to the world that you are snotty, spoiled and elitest. Because that's what a JAP is, and that's where the title comes from.
I went to high school with plenty of JAP's and if you actually enjoy being part of that distinction by all means do so. But to state so in a public forum, like there's something about that to be proud of....I'm about as speechless of that as I am the way you continue to mock and disrepsect the greek system in general.
. so, although you may not consider my actions to be correct, you certainly cannot speak for my friends and family, most of whom think that greek life is petty and feel that the sigma sisterhood did not prove them wrong with this particular incident [/QUOTE]
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There is one thing I do agree with, you certainly don't have any business wearing the letters of any sorority, you have no clue what greek life means and I'm just sorry it wasn't anything you were able to learn over the coarse of the plege period. You're missing out on something that truly could have changed your life.
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08-29-2002, 02:54 PM
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i pledged because i have had a very difficult time finding people to practice my religion with. davis has a very small jewish population and i was looking for a way to find some people that i could bond with on that sort of a level. that answers the question also as to why i didn't rush a national sorority.
in the beginning i found this group to be completely different from other sororities at davis. they do community service events 5 times a quarter, they are an amazingly spiritual group of women. i saw innitiative, campus involvement, and many other qualities that i admired, that i was not finding in other, national sororities at davis. to me, and again, just my opinion here, this group seemed to be less interested in the social aspect of sorority life than other sororities i had learned about. so for those reasons i wanted to be a part of sigma.
i think that there has been a very harsh backlash on this post to the fact that we left sigma's formal. the only formals i had been to before sigma's were frat formals. and at those we were free to leave when we were tired or bored, or whatever, no on cared. so it just didn't occur to me that us leaving would be a huge deal. i stayed for presentations, well into the dancing. so i didn't realize. and i asked the vice president if we could switch hotels because the one we were in was in the tenderloin and i know that area is unsafe. when she gave us the go ahead, we switched. i had no way of knowing the turmoil this was going to cause.
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08-29-2002, 03:07 PM
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I think most of the backlash MTV has created, I would like to think that you agree with me on this Mara. We have never seen Sigma do anything philanthropical, nor anything practing the Jewish faith. From an insider's perspective, why did you allow MTV to film you? Did you believe that they would show the philanthropic side and Judaic side of Sigma? Also, did Sigma know that all the other sororities that were national had been approached for years by MTV about doing this show and MTV was repeatedly turned down because noone believed they would show the ideals of "sincere sisterhood"...they would focus mainly on the partying, binge drinking, and "pledges" breaking the rules?
(i'm not trying to bash you or anything, I am just trying to learn more about Sigma and how it got to be that it was aired.)
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08-29-2002, 03:08 PM
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Well, I for one think that if this is the real Mara, that you need to tell Jordan and Candace about GC, lol. We ALL wanna talk to them. Mara, I didn't have so many issues with, other than a little bit of instigating between Jordan and Amanda. Jordan was my girl til she cursed people out. I still think she is probably the coolest one in the house, but that isn't saying a whole lot. Candace? Oh naw. There is no excuse for her, lol.
About the Jewish thing, if she wants to use the term, let her. If you are offended I say get some thicker skin.
editted cause I thought of a question...
How do you think MTV manipulated the actual goings on of the pledge period? This is your chance to defend yourself and the truth, lol, because lord knows GC folk have ripped this show like there is no tomorrow.
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Originally posted by pledgemarasl
i pledged because i have had a very difficult time finding people to practice my religion with. davis has a very small jewish population and i was looking for a way to find some people that i could bond with on that sort of a level. that answers the question also as to why i didn't rush a national sorority.
in the beginning i found this group to be completely different from other sororities at davis. they do community service events 5 times a quarter, they are an amazingly spiritual group of women. i saw innitiative, campus involvement, and many other qualities that i admired, that i was not finding in other, national sororities at davis. to me, and again, just my opinion here, this group seemed to be less interested in the social aspect of sorority life than other sororities i had learned about. so for those reasons i wanted to be a part of sigma.
i think that there has been a very harsh backlash on this post to the fact that we left sigma's formal. the only formals i had been to before sigma's were frat formals. and at those we were free to leave when we were tired or bored, or whatever, no on cared. so it just didn't occur to me that us leaving would be a huge deal. i stayed for presentations, well into the dancing. so i didn't realize. and i asked the vice president if we could switch hotels because the one we were in was in the tenderloin and i know that area is unsafe. when she gave us the go ahead, we switched. i had no way of knowing the turmoil this was going to cause.
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