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Old 07-31-2006, 04:54 PM
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And what the Phalangist officers did under the command of the Israel government was not for "shits and giggles". They were "no angels either".
It happened while they were in the country but not under their command. Why it occured is something you can ask the Phalangists I suppose. Besides what Assad did to his own people is much more angelic. So is what Saddam did.

Either way this is all irrelevant. Per the UN's own declarations, Israel was not in Lebanon. The only one violating a UN resolution was Lebanon for not disarming Hezbollah. And now this is what happened. I really do have faith though that Hezbollah will be weakened and pushed back and that any new peacekeepers will finally do their jobs. Lebanon will be rebuilt with someone's oil money I am sure too.

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Old 07-31-2006, 05:08 PM
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It happened while they were in the country but not under their command. Why it occured is something you can ask the Phalangists I suppose. Besides what Assad did to his own people is much more angelic. So is what Saddam did.


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Are you sure it wasn't Ariel (head of IDF at the time) who allowed the Phalangists into the camps, while Israel occupied Lebanon?

History must have been rewritten
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:13 PM
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but without Israel creating a bunch of conditions, then neither Hammas nor Hezbollah would exist, at least not as they do now.
So Hamas and Hezbollah need military units and war-making/terrorist capability for legitimate, peaceful reasons?

What is wrong with requiring these people to disarm? Please tell me how exactly this is unreasonable?
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:38 PM
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Are you sure it wasn't Ariel (head of IDF at the time) who allowed the Phalangists into the camps, while Israel occupied Lebanon?

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Ariel Sharon was investigated for it after 300,000 people in Israel protested. Somewhat on a tangent, but when was the last time you heard of 300,000 Arabs protest because Hamas blew up a bus full of civilians? After the investigation, Sharon was held indirectly responsible because it happened under his watch ("buck stops here") but it was in no way carried out by the Israelis and at no point did Israel command them to go in and kill women and children. Supposedly Sharon found out about all this when getting woken up at night.

Consequently, Sharon went on to become a big pussy that gave up a lot of land for nothing and didn't act early enough.

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Old 07-31-2006, 05:43 PM
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On a side note, did anyone see Brian Becker of the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition just say that Hezbollah wasn't a terror organization but Israel was? It was on FoxNews, he claimed that Hezbollah was only responding to Israel's aggression. He looked like a white American, I don't even think he had middle eastern heritage. I love it when the dumbass middle aged hippies come out for things like this.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:19 PM
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On a side note, did anyone see Brian Becker of the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition just say that Hezbollah wasn't a terror organization but Israel was? It was on FoxNews, he claimed that Hezbollah was only responding to Israel's aggression. He looked like a white American, I don't even think he had middle eastern heritage. I love it when the dumbass middle aged hippies come out for things like this.
Actually, it's not just the middle eastern folx who are calling both Hizbullah and Israel terrorists.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:27 PM
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I know, other crazy people are calling Israel terrorists as well. But note what I said, this organization called ONLY Israel terrorists, and said Hezbollah was not.
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:58 AM
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Actually, it's not just the middle eastern folx who are calling both Hizbullah and Israel terrorists.
The same folks who think that Israel is a terrorist state would have to admit that the U.S. is a terrorist state. Our presence in Iraq is far less justified than Israel's presence in Lebanon.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:09 AM
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We're America, our presence is always justified. That just goes without saying...
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:20 AM
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We're America, our presence is always justified. That just goes without saying...
LOL Honest words, if ive ever seen any.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:25 PM
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We're America, our presence is always justified. That just goes without saying...
Are you sure you're not a ringer. I think you work in the White House.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:56 PM
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:59 PM
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We're America, our presence is always justified. That just goes without saying...
the amount of people who actually believe that is actually kinda sad.
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:01 PM
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the amount of people who actually believe that is actually kinda sad.
Terrifying, I'd say.
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Terrifying, I'd say.
LOL, true true.
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