Entire Duke Lacrosse Team Suspended from Play

[PiKA2001]

Originally posted by ktsnake
You win..

No, I changed my mind.

Don't make me call Shazzam

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ktsnake
You win..

No, I changed my mind.

Its business school is not accredited but I'm sure it's lovely.

-Rudey

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Rudey
Its business school is not accredited but I'm sure it's lovely.

-Rudey

Even though I don't have an MBA, and will never get one, I'm becoming the biggest B-school snob ever.

Schools like that are what brings down the average starting income of a B-school graduate.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Schools like that are what brings down the average starting income of a B-school graduate.

Schools like what? Their lack of accreditation for the past few months, due to deadline issues, impacts their graduates and not the average starting income of a B-school graduate.

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools...60124_8628.htm

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Schools like what? Their lack of accreditation for the past few months, due to deadline issues, impacts their graduates and not the average starting income of a B-school graduate.

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools...60124_8628.htm

Schools that are unaccredited. They send out a ton of people who expect six-figure salaries because they have this degree, and they're not as qualified as someone who came from a HBS or Wharton or Kellogg. Not all MBAs are created equal. It happens to some extent in my field (architecture) as well.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Even though I don't have an MBA, and will never get one, I'm becoming the biggest B-school snob ever.

Schools like that are what brings down the average starting income of a B-school graduate.

Yup.

Plus imagine having to pay off loans for that. I mean it's one thing if your company pushes you to go to any mba program at all and pays for it, but why take on the expense yourself for a school like that?

-Rudey

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Schools that are unaccredited. They send out a ton of people who expect six-figure salaries because they have this degree, and they're not as qualified as someone who came from a HBS or Wharton or Kellogg. Not all MBAs are created equal. It happens to some extent in my field (architecture) as well.

What do you know about NCCU's business school, beyond the fact that they have been unaccredited eversince December 2005 and that they will have their accreditation back in a couple of months? Their accreditation will be restored before too many students are forced to graduate from an unaccredited b-school.

You don't know anything about the program's academic integrity and how well prepared graduates will be once the technicality of accreditation is restored. So don't lose any sleep over their brief hiatus from accreditation, especially since you don't have an MBA and will never get one.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
What do you know about NCCU's business school, beyond the fact that they have been unaccredited eversince December 2005 and that they will have their accreditation back in a couple of months? Their accreditation will be restored before too many students are forced to graduate from an unaccredited b-school.

You don't know anything about the program's academic integrity and how well prepared graduates will be once the technicality of accreditation is restored. So don't lose any sleep over their brief hiatus from accreditation, especially since you don't have an MBA and will never get one.

It seems as if you're the one with your Hanes in a lump over this one, not me!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
It seems as if you're the one with your Hanes in a lump over this one, not me!

Never in a lump. I Just want people like you to read up on things before painting with a broad brush. Have a good day.

[Kevin]

Besides meeting deadlines, apparently, the school admits students who think it's okay to send someone to jail because he's white in order to atone for the oppression of the blacks at the hands of the white man.

That comment is just about as offensive and ridiculous as anything I've ever heard.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Is NC Central accredited? Someone should look into that.

Objection -- irrelevant.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Objection -- irrelevant.

Irrelevant only when taken out of context.

The implication was that a school possessing students of such intellectual character presumably are lacking in the academic/intellectual department.

But point taken. Let's go back to talking about how bad these LaCrosse player are.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Irrelevant only when taken out of context.

The implication was that a school possessing students of such intellectual character presumably are lacking in the academic/intellectual department.

But point taken. Let's go back to talking about how bad these LaCrosse player are.

The problem with this case (and many like it) is that people on both sides of the issue often get their heads wedged so far up their asses the discussion degenerates into pointless name calling. There's enough ridiculous to go around here -- from those who want these guys thrown in prison because of their race to those who refer to the alleged vicitm as a stripper from a crappy school and thus deserving of what she says happened to her.

I can understand why people want to take sides. In my ideal world, doing so would be limited to providing support for the person/side/issue of your choosing without bashing or wishing/causing harm to the other and while realizing that as awesome as we all are, we don't really know the truth. Personally, I'm torn. As a woman, I support the alleged victim and hope she is taken seriously and that she isn't discounted because of her race, school, occupation, or anything else. As one who is experienced in the criminal justice arena, I hope the accused are treated fairly by the courts and that they aren't discounted because of their race or the fact that they're Duke athletes, or for any other reason (and admittedly I use the word "alleged" way too often).

[Kevin]

No one is saying that the stripper got what was coming to her (if it happened) because of her school or anything else. Anyone who thinks that there are ever any circumstances giving rise to rape being acceptable is completley effed up.

(but no one is saying that)

If the damned criminal justice system could just work on the timetable of the media, this would have been taken care of in one news cycle.

My wish is the same as yours -- that the criminal justice system works, the guilty go to jail (including this young lady if she's making this up), and the world be made a better and safer place.

I do think, however, that just about any hope of this case being handled in a responsible manner was thrown straight out the window when the D.A. decided that it'd be a terrific idea to start holding press conferences.

[macallan25]

I don't care nearly as much about her "profession" or whether or not she is a student than I do concerning the fact that every thing she has asserted and professed seems to come back and bite her in the ass. Her credibility at this point is so horrible that I can't imagine why any person of rational thought would side with her. She claimed with certainty that both these kids raped her, and then we find out that one of them has pretty much written a verified book of events that placed him nowhere near the house at the time of the "rape." Then this crazy story come out about her making the exact same accusations ten years ago, claiming that she was raped THREE years before by men who, subsequently, never had any charges brought up against them. There were no bouncers at the party (which is odd) and the other stripper there has changed her story two or three times. The whole thing is pretty much insane.