2007 UGA Recruitment - Page 13

melongirl · #**181** 08-16-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notmanhattan

no, quota is 52.

wow, UGA quota was 62 last year. that's a large drop.

why the decrease?

IlliniMeg · #**182** 08-16-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty

In the scenario above, the PNM would get A. It goes by the PNM's preference first. Basically, unless a chapter makes quota before they get to her name on the bidlist, she gets her first choice. And even if you meant for quota to be 52 and she was #53, there is still a 99.999999% are that she would get a bid from A anyway because EVERY SINGLE PNM above her would have to put A first for them to fill quota before getting to her name, which is unlikely.

I've done bid matching by hand (smaller numbers and smaller chapters) before and it was much easier to understand and I believe it works the same with the computers.

Basically you take each bid - look at their first choice - if they are on their A's bid list - it's a match - they get A. If they are not they go into a "Hold" pile, theory is that if someone else on A's bid list has a first choice of B and B matches, that woman would be removed and her slot filled with the next name on the list would move up.

Once you go through all the PNM's - you go back to the "Hold" pile, if sorority A has filled their quota list, they will go down to her second choice "B" and if her name is on their list, she will match to "B", if it is closed then they will move to "C".

But the system is designed to hope everyone gets their first choice, so this is why many get their third choice as they hold on "A" while 'B' is filling up so they drop to "C".

Hope this makes sense, bid matching by hand is the only way I understand the bid matching process!! Plus now that we have compute-a-rush it's done in seconds and with technology, always room for error!

Good luck to EVERYONE today!!

ugadg · #**183** 08-16-2007, 12:47 PM

55, looks like the houses got all the lists last night.

clueless also · #**184** 08-16-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywin

My daughter went through rush this week and eventually dropped out. I too got the dreaded late night phone call from my sorority that they had released my daughter. The thing that was very disheartening was that my daughter was a 4 time legacy at this house with 3 of them being from the UGA chapter. I think my parents paid for half the house in 4 years of dues for 3 girl's !! She had recs at many houses. What I think happened was that we are from out of state and she did not really know anyone in a sorority. My daughter is a pretty, intelligent and loving girl. I am not sure how she could have done better when she only spent a total of 30 minutes at each house. I also believe that the houses where she had recs saw that she was a quadruple XYZ legacy and cut her because they assumed she would pledge XYZ. It has been the hardest thing for her. I am not sure of any other situation where 18 year old girls are rejected by so many groups of girls. She did put in for open bid and I am praying she will get one.

I hadn't thought of the possibility of other houses seeing that she was a legacy. In my daughter's case, that, combined with the fact that we've only lived in GA a short time and she didn't know anyone in any houses, and were never told that recs were needed, caused her to be cut early from most houses, when, like your daughter, she is sweet, smart and attractive, and if she'd had a chance to get to know them things would be different. She's OK about everything, so she says, but I know it will be hard when her roommate and the other girls she's become close to over the past week get their bids. I wonder if the Rho Chi's will follow up with which groups might have COB or a later informal rush. I know she would not consider doing this again next fall.

AnchorAlumna · #**185** 08-16-2007, 01:06 PM

She could still be offered a snap bid.

hollywin · #**186** 08-16-2007, 01:26 PM

Can they get snap bids if they dropped out due to the fact that they were cut from most houses ? Are snap bids and open bidding sometimes done on bid day ?? Just curious..

33girl · #**187** 08-16-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywin

I really feel so sorry for the girls that don't receive bids or got cut out early. How hard is it going to be for them to watch as the sororities pick up the girls at their dorms while they just watch !! My heart breaks for those girls.

Pref was last night, and bid day doesn't begin until 5:30 today. During that time the girls who don't receive bids are getting calls from their rush counselors letting them know they were released. That gives them enough time to get out of Dodge (or off the campus) if they don't want to be around the girls getting picked up.

ugadg · #**188** 08-16-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywin

Can they get snap bids if they dropped out due to the fact that they were cut from most houses ? Are snap bids and open bidding sometimes done on bid day ?? Just curious..

snap bidding should be going on right now. It usually starts right after the houses get all the lists (their bid list, a complete list of what house everyone went to, and everyone who dropped out). This allows girls who accept an opportunity to come to bid day and no one knows who was on the original bid list and who was not.

melongirl · #**189** 08-16-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywin

Can they get snap bids if they dropped out due to the fact that they were cut from most houses ? Are snap bids and open bidding sometimes done on bid day ?? Just curious..

On bid day they (snap bids and COB) look the same to the "outside" world. But if you drop out of rush or SIP (suicide) you cannot be "snap" it must be termed COB. This is how it must be termed on the membership report.

I think people get confused because on Bid Day "outsiders" have no clue which members where snapped or COB-ed. If you dropped out of SIPed you have to sign up for COB. If you maximized your options and were mismatched, then you qualify for snap.

In terms of membership-- it has no bearing. All girls sitting at the houses tonight will be full fledged members. It doesn't matter if they were full formal rush, snap bid, or COB. They are all full "pledges" or PMN's.

Ex: Ruth Rushee drops out after 3rd round. She signs up for COB with ABC and DEF. XYZ is not allowed to "snap" her because she dropped out. To be considered for XYZ, she needs to sign up for COB with them, as well.

jwright25 · #**190** 08-16-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by melongirl

But if you drop out of rush or SIP (suicide) you cannot be "snap" it must be termed COB. This is how it must be termed on the membership report.

This intrigues me, as I looked for it in the Green Book and could not find it. Where is this stated? Specifically that someone who withdraws or ISPs cannot be considered a snap bid?

melongirl · #**191** 08-16-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jwright25

This intrigues me, as I looked for it in the Green Book and could not find it. Where is this stated? Specifically that someone who withdraws or ISPs cannot be considered a snap bid?

Its local. they have to be signed up to be reconsidered. It may be what's considered "snap" where you are. But you cannot tell a girl who drops out after 2nd or 3rd round to sit in her room and "wait for the phone to ring" it won't happen at UGA. She's got to sign up for COB. If you want to call her a snap, so be it. But technically she's not.

jwright25 · #**192** 08-16-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by melongirl

Its local.

Ahhhh gotcha. Thank you for the explanation!

33girl · #**193** 08-16-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by melongirl

Its local. they have to be signed up to be reconsidered. It may be what's considered "snap" where you are. But you cannot tell a girl who drops out after 2nd or 3rd round to sit in her room and "wait for the phone to ring" it won't happen at UGA. She's got to sign up for COB. If you want to call her a snap, so be it. But technically she's not.

When you say about "signing up" for COB - can they sign up for it from all the chapters, or just certain ones?

LoveMyKeyKKG · #**194** 08-16-2007, 01:59 PM

Can any of the snaps or COBs on Bid Day be quota additions or are they just for the groups that didn't make quota?

melongirl · #**195** 08-16-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

When you say about "signing up" for COB - can they sign up for it from all the chapters, or just certain ones?

The houses advertise which ones are participating in COB.

So of the ones that are participating, you can sign up for only the ones that are of interest to you. (or you can sign up for all the ones participating, too)