Latino Greek Letter Organizations

[MSU3CelticSpr06]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

I don't want to know ties to LSU, nor did I ever expect to get a response telling me the ties between the two organizations as it is pretty well assumed that is information for members of the two organizations only. My response to Senusret was simply stating what I've heard from other people about the topic.

Question though, when you called LSU latino exclusive, what exactly do you mean?

whoops i forgot the NOT in there...major mistake I'm so worried about getting rid of this spam @ the end of my messages at work that i didn't check my responses...

[MSU3CelticSpr06]

Originally Posted by ZChi4Life

Re: MSU's motto-that makes sense (that's pretty cool, actually).

And there's absolutely nothing wrong w/ having 5 Latina founders at all! Out of my eight sorority founders, 7 are Latina So I feel you on being "multiculturally minded".

Awww thank you yeah the motto in spanish is what MSU stands for

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[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by MSU3CelticSpr06

Amen...I don't see the big deal with us being tied to a Latino-based fraternity. LSU is just as diverse as my organization. Hell, in my semester alone spring 2006 I had line brothers from just about every ethnicity: from Indian to Irish to Italian to Vietnamese and black as well...just to name a few.

I totally see your point. In general however, there are organizations that may have started out "Latino-based" and now that they have a more multicultural membership, now claimed to be "multicultural based".

My ls's and I are as diverse as they come. I know sorors of every ethnicity. But their membership does not change the focus of Sigma's programming and community service. And I think that's where the discrepancy is, orgs are seen to be "flip flopping" on the core ideals of their organization.

[MSU3CelticSpr06]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

I totally see your point. In general however, there are organizations that may have started out "Latino-based" and now that they have a more multicultural membership, now claimed to be "multicultural based".

My ls's and I are as diverse as they come. I know sorors of every ethnicity. But their membership does not change the focus of Sigma's programming and community service. And I think that's where the discrepancy is, orgs are seen to be "flip flopping" on the core ideals of their organization.

Yeah I see what you are saying. I don't think that LSU (and I haven't seen this yet) is promoting themselves as a multicultural frat. but somehow they've been attracting men from many different cultures for a while now. Most of the programs that I've seen have something to do with the Latino culture.

[Amanuet3]

I personally think it’s great to see many organizations (Black, Latino and Multicultural) embracing different cultures, through their programming, community service and membership. And I feel that the main concern is not that we are accepting different members within these orgs, but how we are presenting it.
There are many non-African American members in many of the D9 organization… However, they don’t claim to be a Black-multicultural org…WHY? ---Because they will never change the identity or the vision that their founders set for their organization. This is the problem I find---What does Latino-multicultural mean? Multicultural means EVERYONE!---without emphasizing any culture, or shadowing the others.
For some of the “TRUE” multicultural organization, they were founded because there was a need to embrace everyone and a thirst for knowledge about different cultures, religions and backgrounds. This was at a time that there were not many others that were offering this type of sisterhood. The founders for “SOME” of our multicultural organizations didn’t just want to provide service and support to one ethnicity, but to EVERYONE.
The hard work our founders struggled to provide is diminished, when other Non-Multicultural orgs, want to “STAMP” the acceptance of diversity. My Founders knew there was a need and envisioned it…If the vision of your founders was not to embrace all cultures, then to ME…Your not multicultural. And if the majority of your members want to change the vision set out by your founders, then to ME…Your in the WRONG org.

[MSU3CelticSpr06]

Originally Posted by Amanuet3

[SIZE=3] And if the majority of your members want to change the vision set out by your founders, then to ME…Your in the WRONG org.

I love this quote!!! *applause*

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by MSU3CelticSpr06

Yeah I see what you are saying. I don't think that LSU (and I haven't seen this yet) is promoting themselves as a multicultural frat. but somehow they've been attracting men from many different cultures for a while now.

And it's because they're all freaking HOTTTT.

I'm sorry, but it's true.

[MSU3CelticSpr06]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

And it's because they're all freaking HOTTTT.

I'm sorry, but it's true.

lol...u so silly

[SoEnchanting]

Originally Posted by Amanuet3

I personally think it’s great to see many organizations (Black, Latino and Multicultural) embracing different cultures, through their programming, community service and membership. And I feel that the main concern is not that we are accepting different members within these orgs, but how we are presenting it.
There are many non-African American members in many of the D9 organization… However, they don’t claim to be a Black-multicultural org…WHY? ---Because they will never change the identity or the vision that their founders set for their organization. This is the problem I find---What does Latino-multicultural mean? Multicultural means EVERYONE!---without emphasizing any culture, or shadowing the others.
For some of the “TRUE” multicultural organization, they were founded because there was a need to embrace everyone and a thirst for knowledge about different cultures, religions and backgrounds. This was at a time that there were not many others that were offering this type of sisterhood. The founders for “SOME” of our multicultural organizations didn’t just want to provide service and support to one ethnicity, but to EVERYONE.
The hard work our founders struggled to provide is diminished, when other Non-Multicultural orgs, want to “STAMP” the acceptance of diversity. My Founders knew there was a need and envisioned it…If the vision of your founders was not to embrace all cultures, then to ME…Your not multicultural. And if the majority of your members want to change the vision set out by your founders, then to ME…Your in the WRONG org.

Amanuet, you have summed it up perfectly. *thumbs up*

[TotallyWicked]

Originally Posted by Amanuet3

And if the majority of your members want to change the vision set out by your founders, then to ME…Your in the WRONG org

I really like this quote

I just get so confused when a lot of Latino organizations say that they are multicultural not by membership but by orientation Peep a couple of youtube videos by some NALFO orgs and some blatantly say "We are NOT a Latina sorority" or "We are the best multicultural sorority out there". Recruiting wise I had to raise my eyebrow and some methods that were used by some orgs, for example "We started out as a Latino organization but we decided to open it up to everyone", I was like...Latin is in your org name....how are you going to say that? I would think most folks' programming would revolve around Latinos as well..that's what they were founded as but some, due to wanting numbers do not do this at all.

I think it is okay to not always have a cultural event, e.g. if you want to have a self defense workshop or a public dinner i think that's cool, but some of your events should reflect what your org stands for. There is this fear that having an event with "Latino" in the name (and yes I have heard this before), would shrink the amount of probable students showing up to the event (especially if the population is very small), there are ways to advertise to the masses but still put across the point that it focuses on Latinos. We held a faith and culture event not too long ago, I really wanted non-Latinos and non-Muslims (as that was what we were looking at) to attend so we decided to advertise it as an event we can ALL relate to but we will be focusing on the Latino Muslim example...I'm glad to say plenty of non-Latinos and non-Muslims showed up

Case in point, it is understandable that folks want numbers especially where the Latino populations are very small, but please keep in mind what your org was founded on!

[LatinaAlumna]

^Co-sign with your ENTIRE post. Some of the organizations have DROPPED the word "Latina/o" altogether if you check out their websites. Personally, I joined a LATINA sorority, and thankfully no one has ever suggested that we start calling ourselves anything else. I would be furious if my organization was now calling itself "multicultural with Latina founders" or any other phrasing that we're starting to see. Sometimes I wonder how older members of these orgs. feel.

[SIAsensacion]

Originally Posted by soul_anna4

Maybe someone from MSU can elighten us because I also question the Latino fraternity ties they have, their Spanish motto, and their Spanish founding mothers. In fact, I also see that "multicultural sorority" is not in their official name (Lambda Tau Omega is guilty of this as well), although some local chapters tend to say it does.

Just to add my 4 cents...I believe that national recognition of multicultural status is EXTREMELY important. To me, a true multicultural organization must be deemed so by their national board and not have any affiliations (currently or in the past) to any specific cultures. Programming, membership, and all other efforts must focus on some aspect of multiculturalism, whether it be education of cultures, breaking stereotypes, etc.

I know this post is a little old, but I just got an email that this thread had some new responses, so I started reading (aka procrastinating lol)...

Anyway, I was just wondering if all five of Mu Sigma Upsilon's founding mothers are from SPAIN, as stated in this post??? I have no idea, maybe they are, but I thought that MSU's founders were Latina...maybe a member of MSU can clarify for us

[LatinaAlumna]

^^LOL!

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by SIAsensacion

I know this post is a little old, but I just got an email that this thread had some new responses, so I started reading (aka procrastinating lol)...

Anyway, I was just wondering if all five of Mu Sigma Upsilon's founding mothers are from SPAIN, as stated in this post??? I have no idea, maybe they are, but I thought that MSU's founders were Latina...maybe a member of MSU can clarify for us

I would speculate the use of "Spanish" in the above quote was appropriate at the time/in the place that it was originally written. I'm from the northeast and prior to going to college (1999/200) "Spanish" was commonly used as a descriptor by both Latinos and non Latinos. In fact, I never really heard/used the term Latino until I entered college. The use of the term Latino is still debated in some areas with some people preferring the use of Latino over Hispanic and vice versa (I'm currently searching for an article I read on this topic a while ago). I know people who still describe themselves as Spanish. To each their own I guess.

[MsDGP007]

Well I think it is a little odd for a Latino/a organization to change their focus and go the multicultural route. It sort of makes the goals of the organization murky and unfocused. But being that many of these groups are relatively young in age (less than 30 years) perhaps they are just trying to "move with the times" or something. The college population in the late 70s and early 80s were dealing with different issues than college students deal with today. So I can understand why they would feel the need to present themselves differently. But overall, I think it's sad. Even though I am a member of a multicultural sorority, I recognize the need for more specific, ethnically-based groups. If it cuts down your recruitement pool; so what? In addition to the Latino/a organizations, I love the Native American organizations.. They seem to bring some really interesting concepts to the Greek community. And their recruitement pool is [I]really [I]small. So there's more to the equation than looking to appeal to as many people as possible.