Plegdes wearing letters??? - Page 13

tunatartare · #**181** 12-06-2003, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Buttonz
I cant imagine having to only wear letters in our colors. One of m favorite things about goign shopping for letts is matching up patterns and backgrounds but maybe thats just me

ditto!

WhirlwindTNX · #**182** 12-06-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Zetagymnast
My sorority has jackets like that. They are hot. Our colors are turquoise and black. We crossed in the Spring so we got White jackets with turquoise letter with a Black border. I got my big sister name, my number and my lines' name on the back. On my sleeve I got the semester I crossed.

Trust that!! I'm the only one to have a jacket in my chapter right now....so I'm constantly wearing it. My line's name is so long we had to abbreviate it on the jacket, but it does start up great conversations.

WhirlwindTNX · #**183** 12-06-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by thetanustew
Here is a basic run down..... they reflect the people that we went through the process with as well.

Sorry if this description is confusing. Perhaps some other folks in organizations with jackets can help clarify!

Cheers,
Shannon

Great explanation soror!

THETA NU!!!

aephi alum · #**184** 12-06-2003, 10:36 AM

OK, so to sum up:

NPC/IFC:
- Some orgs allow pledges/new members to wear letters but not have anything with the crest. Others don't allow them to wear letters until after initiation.
- New members can wear things indicating their affiliation even if they can't wear letters (i.e. shirts with the name of the org spelled out, or the colors, or a new member pin).

NPHC:
- No letters or paraphernalia of any sort while on line. Can't wear them, can't display them, etc.
- No wearing the colors while on line.
- All lettered shirts, jackets, etc. would be in the solid colors of the org or a pattern that only used those colors.

[Would you have to forgo wearing all NPHC orgs' colors while on line? For instance, if you're on line for SGRho and have a favorite red and white sweater, does it go in the closet until you cross?]

MCGLOs tend to follow the NPHC model. Locals can follow either model as they choose.

Did I miss anything?

It's so interesting to see the differences in the way different GLOs do things...

(btw, I like those line jackets

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Edited for accuracy - thanks Senusret I

Senusret I · #**185** 12-06-2003, 10:49 AM

aephi alum,

I HATE to be picky about this, lol, but i just wanted to add a few things.

In terms of what you can wear while you are online if you are joining an NPHC organization, you really can't generalize. I do know for a fact that at least two NPHC sororities have "pledge pins" and one of those asks that their pledges/new members wear the colors of the organization during part of the official process. I only know this because it out in the open.

Other organizations have no pledge pins. The lengths of the NPHC intake programs are all different -- locations vary.

My pet peeve is anyone lumping the NPHC organizations together just because they are NPHC. We really are all different, with different intake procedures and rules.

One last thing.....while it is a privilege to wear our letters, I am pretty sure that forbidding someone from wearing what they have in their closet is considered an intake infraction. Not to say that it doesn't happen, or that it isn't a campus tradition in many places. I would just be surprised if an NPHC member came here and said "Yes, we forbid our aspirants from wearing our colors or other NPHC colors."

aephi alum · #**186** 12-06-2003, 10:55 AM

OK my bad... I was trying to pull together some things that NPHC orgs seem to have in common from what I've seen on GC and particularly on this thread. I know every org is different - just as with NPC (for example) some orgs let their new members wear letters while others (like mine) don't.

How could I restate my earlier post to make it more accurate?

TigerLilly · #**187** 12-06-2003, 11:47 AM

Senusret I -- I'm curious as to why you are so strongly opposed to generalizations about NPHC groups. You say that all the groups are different, and yet it seems that there ARE certain generalizations one could make, such as that people on line are not allowed to wear letters, they are only allowed to wear letters once becoming a brother/sister. That's true for all 9 NPHC groups, right? I'm just confused because similar generalizations or statements about NPC groups don't bother me at all, like aephi alum saying that new members of some orgs can wear letters and new members of others can't. That's a reasonable generalization, to me.

Senusret I · #**188** 12-06-2003, 11:55 AM

The generalization that YOU stated is true. Aspirants to NPHC organizations do not wear letters before initiation.

Other generalizations that are being made by NPHC members here and non-NPHC members can be detrimental to the organizations.

Technically, an organization cannot tell you what colors to wear or not to wear as part of the rush process. There MAY be a dress code, but a dress code is different from saying "You may not wear my organization's colors to rush." A dress code is one thing -- forbidding someone from wearing certain colors is another.

As far as intake goes, t is not universally true that NPHC members may not wear the colors of the organization while they are participating in membership intake.

It is not universally true that the colors of an NPHC organization are equal in value to the letters. And I really wish that NPHC members in particular would stop making this generalization, since we only really know about our own organizations.

It is not universally true that the membership intake process is secret. What happens during membership intake is discreet, but, DEPENDING ON THE ORG, you can learn quite easily the duration of intake and what it generally entails.

Some NPHC organizations do indeed have pledge pins, others do not.

My problem is not with people who are seeking information -- it's fine to be curious. I just want to make sure that people know that every NPHC intake process is different, and some things cannot be generalized.

kddani · #**189** 12-06-2003, 11:59 AM

This has been a really nice, informative thread that has stayed on track and with an overall "nice" tone... with a few exceptions.

Thank you especially to the NPHC and other non-NIC/NPC members who are posting in this thread, as it's been very informative

TigerLilly · #**190** 12-06-2003, 12:01 PM

Another thought -- whether there are any concrete rules about this or not, I've gathered that it's considered "bad form" to wear the colors of an NPHC org whose membership you are pursuing, either during rush or while on line. It also seems to be bad form to wear another NPHC group's colors during that time.
So now I'm wondering...exactly what colors CAN you wear? It seems that almost every color of the rainbow is taken by at least one of the NPHC orgs, and I doubt it would look very classy to show up dressed all in orange (as that color does not seem to be taken by any group). If you were online for any of the NPHC sororities, would it be acceptable for you to wear a black dress, even though black is one of Alpha Phi Alpha's colors? Etc with similar situations.
Or is it the color combination of an NPHC group that is a no-no?

Senusret I · #**191** 12-06-2003, 12:10 PM

TigerLilly,

A lot of these questions can only be answered by the members of the organization one is pursuing on that particular campus. In terms of what is allowed while you are "on line" you may never get those questions answered.

I personally can't explain it because it really is different wherever you go and it depends on the org.

TigerLilly · #**192** 12-06-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
TigerLilly,

A lot of these questions can only be answered by the members of the organization one is pursuing on that particular campus. In terms of what is allowed while you are "on line" you may never get those questions answered.

I personally can't explain it because it really is different wherever you go and it depends on the org.

Alright, cool, I'm just asking b/c I know next to nothing about NPHC orgs and I'm trying not to be ignorant.

Thanks everyone who nicely answered my multiple pestering questions!!!

Senusret I · #**193** 12-06-2003, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by TigerLilly
Alright, cool, I'm just asking b/c I know next to nothing about NPHC orgs and I'm trying not to be ignorant.
Thanks everyone who nicely answered my multiple pestering questions!!!

We're all here to learn!

starang21 · #**194** 12-06-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I

It is not universally true that the colors of an NPHC organization are equal in value to the letters. And I really wish that NPHC members in particular would stop making this generalization, since we only really know about our own organizations.

there's a reason as to why our colors our chosen..you're right, i can't speak for any of the other eight. the whole point is that you'll never see the letters of your frat in anything except your colors, point blank. and that is why the colors are important as well. and i'm sure if you ever saw one of your bruhs ine something like that, you'd have a word with them. but as i said...it's going to be a misunderstanding if i ever see frat with my letters on in anything except brown and gold.

cammykaze1920 · #**195** 12-06-2003, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by TigerLilly
To thetanustew -- Hey, another PSP brother!! Pop over to the PSP forum sometime!!! (Even though it's a bit inactive...)
So, I still have some questions about the colors thing. Like 33girl asked, can you still wear one of the colors while pledging? Like, blue jeans if the org. you're pledging has blue as one of its colors, or your favorite pink sweater if pink was one of the colors?
Could you wear the color on your shoes? (Since I have blue tennis shoes on right now, I thought of that.)
What if you had a job, and your job uniform included the colors of the org. you were pledging? Obviously the org. wouldn't ask you to not wear your work uniform, would they?
For cammykaze1920, you weren't allowed to wear colors around sisters, but otherwise you were...but what if you ran into a sister unexpectedly, at the store or something, while you were wearing a "forbidden" color?
And I know I'm asking a lot of random questions, but I'm curious about this stuff because I had no idea that some groups had the rule about not wearing the colors. I'm just trying to understand how it works, since it seems incomprehensible to me that you would be banned from wearing certain colors.

Hi Tigerlilly,
To answer your question, if I ran into a sister while having the colors on, i would highly doubt that she would stress the issue. No one is that anal to see if there is blue in my sneakers or not. There are some 'hard core' sisters that may stress the issue. But the deal is that one of our colors is royal blue which is highly different from your basic blue.