University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign Recruitment

[arrowlady]

Originally Posted by Clara Mom

Miracle of miracles! My daughter was asked back to the 3 houses she listed first! She was so much happier today than yesterday. I honestly am happily surprised, since she was such a Debbie Downer yesterday, I was afraid no one was going to invite her back!

I am happy for her, sometimes a little conidence builder is all we need. I hope she has a wonderful day at her prefs!

[Clara Mom]

I also wanted to mention - her most favorite house for today (of course, I wish she wouldn't pick a favorite until she has a bid in her hand!) had been a strong favorite of her room mate, but she was dropped early on. I think there was some trash talk going on, and that may have influenced my daughter.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Clara Mom

I also wanted to mention - her most favorite house for today (of course, I wish she wouldn't pick a favorite until she has a bid in her hand!) had been a strong favorite of her room mate, but she was dropped early on. I think there was some trash talk going on, and that may have influenced my daughter.

Yeah, that happens way too often. "OMG who'd want to be an XYZ...they're so slutty and skanky..." This from the girl who had been secretly looking at XYZ gear online and thinking about which outfits it would coordinate with. Probably under other circumstances, your daughter would get what was happening, but when you're in the middle of your own traumas, your thinking gets a bit befuddled.

[DubaiSis]

All we can say is try your best to block out the trash talking, but we all know that's great in theory and really tough to do in real life. I'm glad she's feeling better today! So much of what they go through is merely the process of rejection and not that they were rejected by a particular group, even though they think that's what it is at the time.

Best of luck to her! As long as she marks all 3 on her card today, she WILL have a sorority tomorrow. Exciting, huh?

[scrapcat]

Good Luck to your daughter! 3 invites is awsome I'm sure she'll have a wonderful time!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I can't wait to hear where the U of I PNM's end up!!!

[IL Anchor Girl]

Can some of you who are more familiar with the rules comment on this and tell me what you think? I just heard this today, it really made me sad.

Incoming freshman has a solid 3.5 (out of 4.0) GPA upon high school graduation. She decides to take a college level class over the summer at her local community college to satisfy the prerequisite for a challenging class she wants to take at U of I in the fall. She completes the class and, though it's very difficult, passes with a "C". She is able to enroll in the class and starts packing for school.

Said freshman registers for rush, and things progress very smoothly until after 2nd stage when she is dropped by every house except the 2 lowest houses on her list. She is devastated and mystified as to what happened; although she certainly never expected to get 100% back, this was really drastic. She receives an "off the record", tearful phone call from an older friend, an active in a house she really liked, explaining that she was dropped by her house, and probably all the others as well, because of her 2.0 GPA. PNM is thoroughly confused, until it is explained that only her college GPA is being considered (remember, this consists of 1 summer school course), and her 4 years of high school work is ignored.

Is this really how it's done? It seems incredibly harsh, and certainly penalizes a kid who was trying to take initiative academically. If it is, I don't think PNMs are aware of it at all. In this young woman's case, I don't think she would change anything, since her academics are her top priority and she wouldn't have opted not to take the summer class just to play it safe and go through rush on her high school GPA, but it seems like a shame.

Thanks.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by IL Anchor Girl

Can some of you who are more familiar with the rules comment on this and tell me what you think? I just heard this today, it really made me sad.

Incoming freshman has a solid 3.5 (out of 4.0) GPA upon high school graduation. She decides to take a college level class over the summer at her local community college to satisfy the prerequisite for a challenging class she wants to take at U of I in the fall. She completes the class and, though it's very difficult, passes with a "C". She is able to enroll in the class and starts packing for school.

Said freshman registers for rush, and things progress very smoothly until after 2nd stage when she is dropped by every house except the 2 lowest houses on her list. She is devastated and mystified as to what happened; although she certainly never expected to get 100% back, this was really drastic. She receives an "off the record", tearful phone call from an older friend, an active in a house she really liked, explaining that she was dropped by her house, and probably all the others as well, because of her 2.0 GPA. PNM is thoroughly confused, until it is explained that only her college GPA is being considered (remember, this consists of 1 summer school course), and her 4 years of high school work is ignored.

Is this really how it's done? It seems incredibly harsh, and certainly penalizes a kid who was trying to take initiative academically. If it is, I don't think PNMs are aware of it at all. In this young woman's case, I don't think she would change anything, since her academics are her top priority and she wouldn't have opted not to take the summer class just to play it safe and go through rush on her high school GPA, but it seems like a shame.

Thanks.

When did she register, and what did she put on her registration form?

[IrishLake]

I don't know how it works with her school, but... when I took summer classes at a CC, while the credits transferred just fine, the grade did not reflect on my GPA. It wasn't permitted to. That seems very very harsh.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

I don't know how it works with her school, but... when I took summer classes at a CC, while the credits transferred just fine, the grade did not reflect on my GPA. It wasn't permitted to. That seems very very harsh.

Yeah, that does seem strange, and harsh, too. I took physics at a community college the summer between sophomore and junior year of college. My credits transfered, but not the grades. Too bad, because I got As.

It'd be different if she took a summer class at her university. Then the GPA should count.

[DubaiSis]

What you put on the registration form doesn't matter - she could be lying top to bottom - it's what the transcript says. But I do think it's odd that this grade counted since it wasn't at Illinois. I suppose there could be a CC that feeds directly to Illinois so they accept the class directly.

I'm so sorry she had to go through this. I would suggest she keep pressing for resolution, in case any of the chapters have a snap-bid opportunity. But I guess it's a late date for that.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

What you put on the registration form doesn't matter - she could be lying top to bottom - it's what the transcript says.

No, it definitely matters for women with no college GPA. Yes, you are pretty much just taking their words for it...that's why there are almost no grade cuts for freshmen.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

No, it definitely matters for women with no college GPA. Yes, you are pretty much just taking their words for it...that's why there are almost no grade cuts for freshmen.

High school GPAs are generally verified with the school in my experience. So if they're lying then their high school transcript catches it. Are you speaking about Illinois specifically or schools generally.

I figure there are almost no grade cuts for freshmen because high school GPAs tend to be higher than college ones and getting into the school often requires having higher than the minimum.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

High school GPAs are generally verified with the school in my experience. So if they're lying then their high school transcript catches it. Are you speaking about Illinois specifically or schools generally.

I figure there are almost no grade cuts for freshmen because high school GPAs tend to be higher than college ones and getting into the school often requires having higher than the minimum.

My school verifies freshman GPA by their high school transcripts. We do have several who put down a much higher GPA than their actual (and sometimes leads me to wonder hwo they got in to college) or this year we had a few put their high school GPA as being "2.6-2.8." We need an actual GPA not a GPA range, so we had to wait for verification.

[Clara Mom]

http://registrar.illinois.edu/grades/GPA.html

Relevant section:

4 different grade point averages (GPA) display on your UIUC official transcript:

• TERM GPA - the GPA for your grades for a single semester
• TOTAL INSTITUTION – the GPA for all courses completed at UIUC
• TOTAL TRANSFER – the GPA for courses outside of UIUC
• OVERALL – the Institution and Transfer GPA combined

What was the class that she had to take?