Michael Jackson rushed to hospital

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Maybe they did - we don't know what his doctors said to him, whether he listened to their treatment instructions, and we probably never will know for sure.

I do think it's a bit sketchy for someone's doctors to start speaking publically about one of their patients, even after their death.

Deepak Chopra, never one to shun the spotlight, was quoted as saying that while MJ was in treatment at his center, he asked for a pain pills prescription. Dr. Chopra was like, "why?," and MJ was obviously lying and then he admitted he was in pain. At that point, Chopra realized that MJ was no doubt surrounded by people willing to give him anything he wanted--including large amounts of prescription drugs.

Also, it looks like he found less and less reputable doctors to fulfill his wishes when his top-of-the-line docs said no. I mean, this doctor who was with him when he died wasn't even board-certified.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by kddani

MJ, bringing all ages, races and walks of life together with their terrible dance moves!

Yes. Fun people are fun. Too bad you seemed to overanalyze their fun.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

So various gossip blogs are reporting that Evan Chandler is coming forward now and saying that his molestation allegations were lies (and that his dad, Jordan Chandler, coerced him into making them). I don't know how much truth there is to that at this time though.

Actually Jordy is the son (supposedly molested by MJ) and Evan is the dad.

Interesting info:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209470,00.html

There's no doubt that some of the kids that were around Neverland a lot were from exceptionally effed-up families, Macauley Culkin being a basic example. Whether Michael "preyed" on these kids or whether the kids were drawn to Michael because of the similar effed-upness in their lives, hard to say.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?

There was a photo of him with the two kids that are supposedly his on some Web site the other day, and honestly, I could see a resemblance. This reminds me of when Katie Holmes was pregnant and people insisted the baby couldn't possibly be Tom Cruise's...then she had Suri and it was undeniable that she was the product of Tom and Katie. Maybe MJ's were thru invitro, but they would still be his in that case.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Yup, I feel the same way. I was a HUGE fan growing up. When I hear his music today I always think of the Black MJ...LOL! Not the pale, weird figure that totally destroyed his beautiful face and who obviously had deep psychological issues.

I still remember a television special or interview that revealed that MJ was approached by a woman in an airport while he was in the midst of puberty. She said something along the lines of "What happened to the cute little boy you were?", and MJ obviously interpreted that as "You've grown into an ugly beast." So sad that he saw it that way because I can still look at him from the "Off the Wall" and "Thriller" albums and the same serious crush emotions I had are still real. Even the clips of older Michael with the Jacksons like in '77. How could he not see how genuinely handsome he was as black MJ? Also, I never realized how jaw-droppingly delicious and unbelievable his "Robot" was. WOW!!!

And NO, you are not the only person who never believed those kids aren't Michael's biologicially.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

There was a photo of him with the two kids that are supposedly his on some Web site the other day, and honestly, I could see a resemblance. This reminds me of when Katie Holmes was pregnant and people insisted the baby couldn't possibly be Tom Cruise's...then she had Suri and it was undeniable that she was the product of Tom and Katie. Maybe MJ's were thru invitro, but they would still be his in that case.

I saw the similarties too, the only problem is that his kids should genetically look more similar to what he was born looking like than what he looks like now! So I can't really 100% say. But it doesn't matter much to me whether they are bio or not. He made it so they could be in this world and took care of them. That's a damn good definition of Daddy.

[knight_shadow]

Bobby Brown will reunite with New Edition to perform a Jackson 5 medley at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles tonight (June 28) to open the BET Awards, part of an extended tribute to Michael Jackson. Other performers scheduled to honor Jackson with performances of his songs include Beyonce, Jamie Foxx, Ne-Yo and Maxwell, according to Ron Weisner, the show's producer and a former Jackson representative.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/...03988556.story

[DaemonSeid]

MJ's death slows the internet to a crawl


Something to think about...how reliable is the net for a source of news? If we should remember one thing about this event is how long it took major news sources to not only update those pages but also how long to GET to those pages to even find this out.

Moreso, this event may start calling into question about the readiness of the net for a world changing event and making sure that everyone is able access it quickly.

If Michael Jackson's death can bring the net to a crawl...what would have to happen to shut it down and what should the wolrd do to beef up equipment to avoid that happening?

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

MJ's death slows the internet to a crawl

If Michael Jackson's death can bring the net to a crawl...what would have to happen to shut it down and what should the wolrd do to beef up equipment to avoid that happening?

If I recall correctly, the internets was pretty slow on 9/11 too. That was before the smart phone craze, so most people were internet surfing from home or an office, where they could also watch TV. I haven't seen a single televised item about MJ's death since I don't watch television; I did, however, find things out on my BlackBerry.

Do news outlets need additional servers to handle the traffic of a once-every-8 to 10 years type of event? Is slow internet just something we'd have to deal with during a Major Event?

[UGAalum94]

I question, on a what-does-it-say-about-us-on-a-cultural level, whether MJ's death should be the kind of event like 9/11 that slows the internet, but that's a different thread all together. I've got nothing against him, certainly, but it's weird that a pure pop star celebrity has turned out to be as significant in death to us as he has.

Even with the "slow" internet, information still got around a lot faster than I think it would have pre-net, and that's kind of the amazing part about it. How quickly after 911 was called did you know about Michael's collapse?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I question, on a what-does-it-say-about-us-on-a-cultural level, whether MJ's death should be the kind of event like 9/11 that slows the internet, but that's a different thread all together. I've got nothing against him, certainly, but it's weird that a pure pop star celebrity has turned out to be as significant in death to us as he has.

Even with the "slow" internet, information still got around a lot faster than I think it would have pre-net, and that's kind of the amazing part about it. How quickly after 911 was called did you know about Michael's collapse?

good point...

In comparison:

My experience with 9/11

Wasn't sure until really maybe 10 or 11am just exactly what happened and my cowrokers and I went hunting down TVs to confirm

MJ's death

Within THE HOUR from collapse to confirmation, most of us worldwide what happened...even still the major newsnetworks were among the last to confirm it.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I question, on a what-does-it-say-about-us-on-a-cultural level, whether MJ's death should be the kind of event like 9/11 that slows the internet, but that's a different thread all together. I've got nothing against him, certainly, but it's weird that a pure pop star celebrity has turned out to be as significant in death to us as he has.

Even with the "slow" internet, information still got around a lot faster than I think it would have pre-net, and that's kind of the amazing part about it. How quickly after 911 was called did you know about Michael's collapse?

I got word within the hour. A lot of it has to do with social networking sites (Twitter) and tabloid sites (TMZ) becoming more popular. I'm sure if we had these things in 2001, we would have heard news just as quickly.

[AGDee]

The net did slow to a crawl on 9/11. Sites like CNN were not accessible due to the huge traffic. I had a co-worker come to my desk and ask if I could get the local news radio station in from my cubicle because she saw on CNN that a plane hit the WTC but then CNN went down. I turned on the radio minutes before the second plane hit. That news was spread in most places very quickly. I imagine if you were sitting in a classroom, you wouldn't have heard until that class was over, back then. Now, with smartphones and wi-fi everywhere, you'd probably have heard it within 10 minutes.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AGDee

The net did slow to a crawl on 9/11. Sites like CNN were not accessible due to the huge traffic. I had a co-worker come to my desk and ask if I could get the local news radio station in from my cubicle because she saw on CNN that a plane hit the WTC but then CNN went down. I turned on the radio minutes before the second plane hit. That news was spread in most places very quickly. I imagine if you were sitting in a classroom, you wouldn't have heard until that class was over, back then. Now, with smartphones and wi-fi everywhere, you'd probably have heard it within 10 minutes.

So...when all is said and done...do any of you folks are we better prepared to get big event news like that or are we still lagging?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

So...when all is said and done...do any of you folks are we better prepared to get big event news like that or are we still lagging?

Like Munchkin03 said, I think the concept of needing to "upgrade" the internet just for an out of the blue event is silly. The reason people hit the net so hard is because things were being reported before they were confirmed.

In case of a true national emergency, like 9/11, the Emergency Alert System still exists on TV and radio. Michael's death is not an emergency.