An SEC rush

[southernyankee]

My daughter thinks that pi phi, tridelta, and adpi all made over quota...so can they still snap? Sorry for all the questions...I feel so bad for those other girls...I am hoping it can still work out for them.

[bamabelle99]

[QUOTE=FloridaTish]Isn't Gamma Phi one of the most "recently established" sororities on campus? From what I've seen and read about traditional SEC campuses, It can be very hard on the "newest" (and not traditionally Southern) organizations to gain ground on a campus where there are such dyed in the wool preconceptions about where PNM's want to be members...(ex. their mother, sister, grandmother were all XYZ's there) QUOTE]

I believe they were established in the 80's...could be wrong though. I think they came to campus after either DG was kicked off or Sigma Kappa...not 100% sure of that though.

[SIGKAP DAWG]

Our sorority at UGA, has been on campus for about 40 years. It took at least thirty years for our chapter to become a "known sorority". Now we are at the top. Some of the older houses that haved been there FOREVER and are Southern born & bred, are now seeing us as a legimate house. It has taken a long time. Gamma Phi will get there, and they will be awsome. It just takes some time and effort and training the minds of the "old" school, that you are someone, they need to sit back and take notice of. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!

[irishpipes]

[QUOTE=bamabelle99]

Originally Posted by FloridaTish

Isn't Gamma Phi one of the most "recently established" sororities on campus? From what I've seen and read about traditional SEC campuses, It can be very hard on the "newest" (and not traditionally Southern) organizations to gain ground on a campus where there are such dyed in the wool preconceptions about where PNM's want to be members...(ex. their mother, sister, grandmother were all XYZ's there) QUOTE]

I believe they were established in the 80's...could be wrong though. I think they came to campus after either DG was kicked off or Sigma Kappa...not 100% sure of that though.

Gamma Phi Beta chartered its Bama chapter in 1988 - the same year Alpha Xi Delta left. DG left campus in 1978.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by SIGKAP DAWG

Our sorority at UGA, has been on campus for about 40 years. It took at least thirty years for our chapter to become a "known sorority". Now we are at the top. Some of the older houses that haved been there FOREVER and are Southern born & bred, are now seeing us as a legimate house. It has taken a long time. Gamma Phi will get there, and they will be awsome. It just takes some time and effort and training the minds of the "old" school, that you are someone, they need to sit back and take notice of. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!

What do you mean by "at the top"? Are you talking about the infamous SEC "tiers"?

[FloridaTish]

Not to criticize SigKap Dawg, becuase I know she was being supportive by using her own sorority as an example, but as long as the "established" sororities are constantly labeled by these "tiers", it really gives the PNM's a skewed sense of the sororities. Referring to your sorority as the "top" shows your pride, but at the same time can demean another sorority on campus by putting them in a lower supposed tier that perpetuates the myth that there is something off with that chapter. It circulates in the "tent talk" and gets passed on from one PNM to another.

I trust that Gamma Phi Beta is working as hard as possible to be the best chapter they can be and I am proud to call them my sisters. Compared to the other sororities at Alabama, they are new in the eyes of the campus!

[BamaDad]

Is DZ an "established" or "SEC tier" sorority at Bama, or generally speaking in the South? I think Auburn has a decent-sized chapter, but you can put all my sorority knowledge in a baby's booty with room left over.

[hmd1014]

Is DZ an "established" or "SEC tier" sorority at Bama, or generally speaking in the South?

They've been at Bama since 1922 (same year Chi Omega was established) and are everywhere in the SEC except Arkansas and Ole Miss, I believe. The LSU chapter has been making quota for 40-something years.

[BetteDavisEyes]

*sigh* I really hope that all this "top house" & "top tier" stuff goes away. It doesn't matter where your sorority is ranked IMO. All that should matter is the fact that you find your sisters there & are happy. All the rest is just nonsense.

/climbs off soapbox

[PeppyGPhiB]

This is actually my first post on Greek Chat in a LONG time (I was an active poster a couple years back, but I've forgotten my login info ), but I've been a lurker for a while. Some of the recruitment stories have prompted me to reply.

I went to a school with sororities that were polarized numbers-wise. Unfortunately, it is extremely challenging for the smallest chapter to do well on a campus where the other sororities are so much bigger. Once this cycle is started, it's hard to get out. In the case of my school, one of our eight sororities was forced to leave campus (after only being there for around five years) just because their small numbers hurt them each year during rush.

From my experience, here's what often happens: PNMs are overwhelmed during the first round of parties and look for all kinds of reasons to order and eliminate sororities. One of the easiest ways for them to do this is by judging on chapter size. If they go into a room that is only half as full as the last house they were at, they often make a snap judgement on the quality of that chapter. Unfortunately, those chapters often don't get a fair shake - even if qualities of the chapter and its members are "superior" to much larger groups. As someone that was on Panhellenic exec. and a Rho Chi two years, I cannot tell you how painful it was to hear the same thing over and over from PNMs ("That's the small sorority, right?" or "Something must be wrong with them, because they're so much smaller than XYZ.")

I wish there was an easy way to remedy this problem on campuses. COR is of course an option that most small chapters work very hard at, but c'mon, you're not going to COR 60 women. I wish more Panhellenics saw these types of situations as a danger to their whole council, but not all of them do. Not until all the smaller houses are gone and the big ones are left to cannibalize each other do they sit up and take notice.

[GPhiBLtColonel]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

This is actually my first post on Greek Chat in a LONG time (I was an active poster a couple years back, but I've forgotten my login info ), but I've been a lurker for a while. Some of the recruitment stories have prompted me to reply.

I went to a school with sororities that were polarized numbers-wise. Unfortunately, it is extremely challenging for the smallest chapter to do well on a campus where the other sororities are so much bigger. Once this cycle is started, it's hard to get out. In the case of my school, one of our eight sororities was forced to leave campus (after only being there for around five years) just because their small numbers hurt them each year during rush.

From my experience, here's what often happens: PNMs are overwhelmed during the first round of parties and look for all kinds of reasons to order and eliminate sororities. One of the easiest ways for them to do this is by judging on chapter size. If they go into a room that is only half as full as the last house they were at, they often make a snap judgement on the quality of that chapter. Unfortunately, those chapters often don't get a fair shake - even if qualities of the chapter and its members are "superior" to much larger groups. As someone that was on Panhellenic exec. and a Rho Chi two years, I cannot tell you how painful it was to hear the same thing over and over from PNMs ("That's the small sorority, right?" or "Something must be wrong with them, because they're so much smaller than XYZ.")

I wish there was an easy way to remedy this problem on campuses. COR is of course an option that most small chapters work very hard at, but c'mon, you're not going to COR 60 women. I wish more Panhellenics saw these types of situations as a danger to their whole council, but not all of them do. Not until all the smaller houses are gone and the big ones are left to cannibalize each other do they sit up and take notice.

Well put sister!!!

[canadajen]

Congratulations to all of the BAMA chapters on their recruitments! Are the final numbers available yet for how many each chapter received (including quota additions, snaps)?

Thanks!

[houstonchica]

Originally Posted by SIGKAP DAWG

Our sorority at UGA, has been on campus for about 40 years. It took at least thirty years for our chapter to become a "known sorority". Now we are at the top. Some of the older houses that haved been there FOREVER and are Southern born & bred, are now seeing us as a legimate house. It has taken a long time. Gamma Phi will get there, and they will be awsome. It just takes some time and effort and training the minds of the "old" school, that you are someone, they need to sit back and take notice of. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!

I remember that time and you are so correct , SigKap Dawg!! I did not attend UGA but a very good friend of mine from high school was a Sigma Kappa at UGA in the early/mid 80's when that chapter had a hard time meeting quota and so forth. She always spoke so highly of Sigma Kappa and would talk about what a great reputation you all have nationally---And, now you all are definitely getting the recognition you deserve!

[GPhiBLtColonel]

Originally Posted by houstonchica

I remember that time and you are so correct , SigKap Dawg!! I did not attend UGA but a very good friend of mine from high school was a Sigma Kappa at UGA in the early/mid 80's when that chapter had a hard time meeting quota and so forth. She always spoke so highly of Sigma Kappa and would talk about what a great reputation you all have nationally---And, now you all are definitely getting the recognition you deserve!

I wish all the girls going thru rush could step back and see the bigger Panhellenic picture. Nationally all the sororities are good, viable women's organizations that support their members etc. It's just that regionally some sororities may be stronger than others..and for some reason THAT seems to be more noticeable in the south. I have said it before, sororities that are BIG (or "top") in the south may not be top - much less even heard of - on the west coast for instance....

Just being part of NPC is something to be proud of!

[UGAalum94]

One of the best woman I have ever known was DZ at Alabama in the seventies. They've been rushing, pledging and initiating some of the best women the south for a long time.