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Old 03-28-2003, 01:24 PM
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WHAT A BUNCH OF BUNK!!!! Sounds to me like some other "veto" power we have seen lately...too much to be discovered.

Ask Arya. I'm serious. He knows how to do that kind of thing.
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Old 03-29-2003, 05:28 AM
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thanks for the vote of confidence JAM.

Reading the article, I think the reason that they don't want outside help is mainly face saving tecnique. What happen if they got some hot shot investigator from the FBI that is able to solve the case in 2 months. The chief will really look bad. Also his reason that it might be turn into a book, i think it should be turned into a book. Not a novel, but an academic book so other investigator can learn from their mistakes and success.

I don't know if this has been mention or if its going to be effective cost wise, but I do know that downtown Johanesburg (one of the most dangerous area in the world in term of crime) businesses and the local police have teamed up and put camera every where to watch for crime and it has done wonder to lower the crime rate. Although, I don't know how this will penned out in a university town, instead of a metropolitan. Another idea is having the police patrol in bicycle and horses. This will have an omnipresent among the people. This has also done wonder in NYC, Johannesburg, Cape Town, etc.

As for petition, you could go to Petition Online. this methods have done a great deal of good because it will spread like wildfire. Hope that help. Your city have my prayers, and be carefull out there.
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Old 03-29-2003, 10:16 AM
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Arya, you really are a wonderful, helpful guy! Thanks!
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Old 03-29-2003, 12:26 PM
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Like I posted before, my friend who is in the news media told me that the police and sheriff want their guy to catch it, so they're keeping things really close to the vest.

I drove by Carrie Yoder's house last night. It was scary. It's about 2 blocks from my apartment. We knew which house it was because it didn't have a front door.


It's really scary in BR. I was at Fred's and I went out to the car to get my jacket. I did it by myself, which was a bad idea but my boy was there watching me from the window. It's still so scary that you don't feel comfortable doing the smallest things.

I finally got out of my lease...but only for May, June, July, August...still gotta pay April's rent. But, its' better than nothing. I do NOT want to live in BR.

Does anyone else think that Chief Engalade looks really really really dumb? Maybe its just the large meaty looking head with the strangely shaped spikes for hair...
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Old 03-29-2003, 01:08 PM
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Chief Englade= Barney Fife

nothing personal, but i mean, he said it before- he has never caught a serial killer. If I haven't ever flown a plane, do you think I'm going to try? I would be risking my own life and the lives of other innocent people. By not asking for help, they are risking the lives of ALL women in LA.


P.S.- Yvonne Welsh for Governor


edited to add: check out the court tv website, it is where CASK all got started.
http://boards.courttv.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=38

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Old 04-02-2003, 08:02 PM
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I guess I was wrong in assuming that EVERYONE in BR knew not to open their doors to anyone...... he's not the SK but he could have been as dangerous.


http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1212370
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Old 04-09-2003, 11:40 PM
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me again, i think i'm going for a new record.

Poem about the serial killer
Fears of south Louisiana's serial killer have hit high school students who live outside the Baton Rouge or Lafayette areas.

In Lutcher, a town halfway between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, a group of Lutcher High School students used poetry to confront their feelings about the man known to be responsible for the deaths of at least five women.

Teacher Susonne Oleson realized what an impact the serial killer case is having on her students when she began to grade their assignments. Oleson didn't tell her class to write about the serial killer; some just chose the topic because it bears heavily on their thoughts.

Danielle, one of the students who contributed work, says she carries mace everywhere she goes. Her poem (included in its entirety at the end of this article) exemplified the sentiments of all of her girlfriends, who want to be able to lead normal, carefree lives.

Instead, she worries that she could be next on the list of the serial killer's victims.

Ed Piglia, Pam Kinamore's brother, wants to have Danielle's poem read at the next victims' rally on the steps of the capitol.

Poem by Danielle, 17, senior at Lutcher High School:

It was a beautiful day as I jogged along,
Listening to music and singing the song.
The morning was spent just like any other,
Talking to Mom and my little brother.

I was thinking about how to spend the rest of my day,
And watching the trail as I ran on my way.
The sun shining bright with the heat on my face,
I continued along at a slow easy pace.

A I turned the corner, I was met by a man.
He smiled like he knew me and was waving his hand.
I smiled in return and continued my run,
it was them that I felt the coolness of his gun.

"Don't make a sound," he whispered in my ear,
"walk to my car, it is parked over here."
He warned me not to scream or I would surely die.
I was so scared, I wanted to cry.

He opened my door and I had a weird thought.
I knew I should have carried the mace that Mom bought.
I thought about home and how safe I always felt.
I didn't like this situation that I was now dealt.
We started to drive away from the town.
I tried to remember all the sights and the sounds.
The sky was a beautiful shade of blue.
I started to regret all the things I wouldn't get to do.

I knew that my life would soon come to an end.
I am only seventeen and it should have just begun.
I wanted to tell Mom and dad that I loved them once more.
I wanted to dance across my wedding room floor.
I wanted to hold my babies tight to my chest.
I wanted to know I always did my best.
I wanted to know what it is like to be a wife.
I want to live the rest of my life.

I tried to talk to him and begged to be let go.
With a knife to my throat I felt the blood flow.
I looked in his face, wondering how could he hate me so.
These are things that I really wanted to know.

I am still alive as I lie here all alone.
He dumped me out and then he was gone.
The sky is getting darker, I know my time is near.
I just wish that someone I loved could be here.

My life is now over, I have ceased to exist,
but I didn't get to do all the things on my list.
I lie here beside that old dirt road,
without someone's hand to hold.
My life has been taken away by a man,
with a steely sharp knife clutched in his hand.
As I take my last breath, I look to heaven above
and know that God was here and I was surrounded by his love.
I hope someone finds me, I want to go home.
My family needs closure; I don't want to be here alone.
Please find my killer, he has done this before.
I hope I am the last that has to go through this gore.

It wasn't that bad crossing over you see,
but the ones left behind are still looking for me.
The pain they must feel, the emptiness inside.
All taken away on that short little ride.

My faith was surely put to the test.
I hope they get him before he kills the rest.
You see this man is evil and doesn't care at all,
about anyone, or anything, no matter how small.

This is the last time I can tell you how I feel.
Just find that man, I know that you will.
He has to be stopped before he does this again.
Keep searching I beg you, my parents and friends.

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I was watching the news last week and Ed Piglia (now that's a man who knws how to get things done) has already started a petition to get more people involved in the investigation i think he wants the state to take over the investigation. I'm not exactly sure, anyone with any info. please correct me.
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JAM- Congrats to your daughter and her sisters on an AMAZING Songfest Performance! Great Job!
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Old 04-10-2003, 08:59 AM
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That poem gave me chills and well, it got to me.

We are getting little news bites in the paper, but it's starting to feel like appeasement NOT real progress-like "See, see, we are keeping this in the publics' eye, yeah us."

I'll sign a 100 petitions. Anything to help!

JAM- Congrats to your daughter and her sisters on an AMAZING Songfest Performance! Great Job!
I didn't hear a THING about it this year! Was it a good one all around? Were you all paired with guys who get int that kind of thing? It makes all the difference.
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:45 AM
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I received this email today:

Coincidence?

Be careful in the next couple of weeks.

Gina Wilson Green was murdered in September 2001 (around Labor Day).

Charlotte Murray Pace was murdered in May 2002 (around Memorial Day).

Pam Kinamore was murdered in July 2002 (around July 4th).

Trineisha Dene Colomb was murdered in November 2002 (around Thanksgiving).

Carrie Yoder was murdered in March 2003 (around Mardi Gras).

The smallest amount of time between any two of these murders is a month and a half. A month and a half after Carrie Yoder's murder is roughly April 18th, 2 days before Easter. I'm just trying to keep awareness up and not let time fade these murders in our minds.
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:03 PM
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Ladies,
If you are fearful, I urge you to take a Full Impact Self-Defense Course such as "Model Mugging".
I did and it's the best thing I ever did!
http://www.bamm.org/Chapters.html

Also, be wary of any "Self-Defense Tips for Women" that you get via e-mail. Alot of them are wrong and even DANGEROUS!
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:10 PM
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I agree CutiePie-LSU offers some classes. From what I read, they had to add more due to demand. Is that right ThetaLove?

I told Baby Girl to make sure she isn't alone for a single minute during this hiatus. She isn't coming home until Mon. but she PROMISED she had all her time covered with friends.

I think that the holidays are definitely part of the pattern!
I'm scared to death thinking about summer...
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Old 04-11-2003, 02:58 PM
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Yes, they have increased the number of classes offered. Just last night, there was a speaker but I was unable to attend. it sounded great. I went to chat with the Chancellor and he said that Governor Foster has given him a quarter of a million to increase security, call boxes, lighting, etc. (that number might be a little off, but i'm almost positive what he said) Also, they have purchased, well now they are leasing, but they will be buying three additional campus transit vans. the old ones were kinda ratty and they really needed new ones regardless. However, they are not being utilized as much as they should be. He said that the drivers are saying that when they are making their rounds they still see women walking alone. As for call boxes, they've added more and also put blinking blue lights on the top of all of them. They also urge students, faculty, etc. to report places around campus that are dimly lit. As for cameras, of course they wouldn't say where they are exactly but they're cameras around high traffic areas of campus. the captain of lsupd said that he wants to have every inch covered, whether it be by cameras or men. Also, they will have constant patrols of the campus, even during break. (And also the community nearby) Lately I have been seeing a lot of police officers around and I hadn't noticed it until very recently.
I feel that campus transit or LSUPD should be used whenever necessary. A girl that lives in ECA asked the capt. what she should do when coming in late at night because she has to walk over the bridge by herself. He told her to first find an policeman who is on patrol and flag him down and ask him to watch her to make sure she makes it in ok. He also said for her to call campus transit to pick her up if she can't find the cop on patrol. Last but most importantly, try to avoid being alone late at night if possible.

About Songfest- JAM- We were paired with Lambda Chi. Last year they did a little bit too much pre-partying before the performance. However, they knew that we were in it to win it and no drinking before allowed at all!!! We made them report to our house really early that morning. It wasn't at all amusing to me when they pretended to be sloppy drunk that morning. But all in all, they were fun and did what they needed to do. DeeGee was paired with Pi Kapp I think and they are usually very helpful. They did Homecoming with us last year. However, this years winners proved that it doesn't matter who you are paired with, it is how hard you work.
It was a great Songfest all around. However, in past years, I think that stunts have helped a lot and this year no stunts were allowed. At least no elaborate ones. However, this caused the performers to be even more creative in order to stand out. I would say that there was more competition than last year. There were many sororites that I feel would have placed except they did not utilize their guys as much and that is something that judges look for- or so it seems.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:33 PM
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[i]\ Yvonne Welsh really gave a good speech. She said that she wanted every male in BR to volunteerly give their DNA. She also said that if you were a male and you didn't have anything to worry about, then step up and give your DNA to rule yourself out. She said she wanted to have her son and her husband swabed to eliminate them. Also, she said that if too many people say that it violates their rights, she will pass a bill to MAKE them give their DNA. She said that if the killer comes after her, we will all read about it in the paper becuase she is going to get him. [/B]
Who exactly is Yvonne Welsh??

As for passing a bill to make people give them their DNA i think that's a long time coming, the ACLU would be all over that and by the time the case was settled that'd be a lot of money and time spent that could have been better spent on the investigation. Louisiana doesn't have the labs to cope with the kind of mass chaos that would happen if every male submitted a sample. That would lead to inefficeincy and errors, possibly clearing the serial killer. I personally want them to find this sicko but I'd rather them do it slower and correctly than hasty and sloppy. But that's just me, you're entitiled to your own opinions.
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Old 04-23-2003, 10:12 PM
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I was thinking about this the other day, when the term "serial killer" was first used, there were two victims. Now, there are five. I know it is just restating the obvious, but it really got to me.
Here is some info I picked up from the court tv message board. I have not verified any of this info. but I thought it was interesting.


"In reading archived articles on The Advocate, I learned that Gina Green had been in the news prior to her murder. And there were photos of her as well. She was demonstrating portable infusion therapy for the daughter of a Baton Rouge EMS Public Education event coordinator."
"Dene:
1) Police stated there was evidence that Dene had been watched from her residence, in some amount.
She also spoke to her brother before leaving and explained her plans to him.
2) Police also reported that in the area where the Dene crime was committed the SK left a very important item. An item that would force him to get all his further info on the case from the media.

3) I'm recalling the AMW portrayal of Dene's car...how it was parked and how the windows were partially rolled down. I couldn't think of how or why she would have been stopped with her windows down like that
4) I think her brother believes there may be a connection between her murder and her frequent use of the internet. He mentioned in a couple of TV interviews that she stayed on the computer much of the time.


Also a reporter has said that in speaking to the brother,he did talk to Dene that morning,however there was no mention of her going to Grand Coteau.
Green:
A) also owned the home health care business

B) was sitting at her vanity getting ready to meet friends for dinner when the SK attacked.


*Gina: Bike rode around Lakes on Campus the afternoon before her murder.
*Gerlynn: Followed home from registering at LSU and murdered.
*Murray: worked on campus at the CEBA building, followed home from work to home at noonish and murdered. Just graduated.
*Christine Moore: Parked at Farr Horse Park/River Road (south side of campus) to jog. Body found on/near LSU AG land. Just registered for Grad school.
*Teresa Gilcrease: Body left on LSU-A (Alexandria) property on Dean Lee Research/LSU AG center extension program.
*Pam Kinamore: Visited LSU campus (fieldhouse) two nights before her murder for a party her son was invited to. Accessed the southgate either coming or going.
*Mari Ann Fowler: Drove on Christmas eve to I 10, from her home to I 10 easiest route would take her through campus, near south gate...(?), abducted when she stopped at Subway, just off I 10.
*Carrie Yoder: Spent most of the day Monday at Library on LSU campus, just prior to her abduction/murder.

We're not sure of Dene, although it is possible that she may have toured the school while visiting her brother in BR.

If so, then this would certainly strengthen the LSU connection theory.

It would therefore seem almost without doubt as to where Sk found his victims.
The article about Dene being watched is in the Laf paper, the Daily Advertiser
http://www.theadvertiser.com/

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Old 04-24-2003, 02:47 PM
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This was just plain scary. A lot of speculation, but a lot of facts...

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=50434
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