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Old 04-13-2012, 11:42 AM
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Why don't we stick to things like "facts" and "pure law" (if such a thing exists)? Wouldn't that be better than smashing our collective heads against the wall, and/or making ludicrous scenarios real via conjecture or misinformation?
This is GreekChat, not a Florida court of law. People go off uninformed everyday on this site about 100 different subjects. Nothing said here will impact the Zimmerman trial in any way, shape or form. It's a venue to express opinion, nothing more. Anyone foolish enough to take take information here w/out verifying it themselves, gets what they get.

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True but there is a big difference between judging a case based on evidence and testimony presented during a trial (Anthony) and judging a case based on half assed reporting (Martin).
Are you suggeting no one had had anything to say about the Anthony case before it was decided?
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:05 PM
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True but there is a big difference between judging a case based on evidence and testimony presented during a trial (Anthony) and judging a case based on half assed reporting (Martin).
Yes, you're absolutely right. No one made any assumptions about Casey Anthony prior to her trial. Seriously, no one talked about the case at all. It totally happened in a vacuum.

Of course, it's pretty near impossible to put a sweet looking dead toddler on trial in the court of public opinion, so perhaps the character attacks on a teenager who is not here to defend himself are included the "half-assed reporting" you're referring to in the Martin case.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:21 PM
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Bond hearing for Zimmerman set for April 20

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz1rwDZ6z9U

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...svGgaM.twitter

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Old 04-13-2012, 02:02 PM
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Meet the Judge Who Drew George Zimmerman’s Case
The Florida judge assigned to George Zimmerman’s case is among the newest on the circuit court’s bench, but former colleagues and adversaries say Jessica Recksiedler’s previous life as a tough-as-nails trial lawyer and prosecutor makes her a good fit for what could be one of the highest-profile trials in recent memory.

After graduating Stetson University College of Law, she spent about two years as a state prosecutor in Florida’s Ninth Judicial Circuit, leaving for private practice in 1998. Judge Recksiedler, 39, was elected to the bench in 2010.

“Her main claim to fame is she knows her way around the courtroom,” said Paul Thompson, her former law partner at Thompson & Evangelo in Altamonte Springs, Fla.

Thompson’s firm handles insurance defense and personal injury cases, and Judge Recksiedler handled both during her time there.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/04/12/...mermans-case/#
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:05 PM
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Attorney for George Zimmerman seeks judge's recusal

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SANFORD, Fla. -
The attorney for George Zimmerman, who's charged with murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, said he will likely filing a motion for the judge to recuse herself from the case because of a possible conflict of interest.
During a 10-minute status hearing that was held Friday in Seminole County, attorney Mark O'Mara said the filing of the motion to have Circuit Court Judge Jessica Recksiedler removed may be "imminent."

O'Mara became Zimmerman's attorney after being recommended by attorney Mark NeJame, who was contacted by Zimmerman's family. Recksiedler's husband works at NeJame's law firm.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/Attorne...i/-/index.html

George Zimmerman judge: My husband works for a lawyer who'll do case commentary for CNN
SANFORD – The judge hearing the George Zimmerman case today announced that her husband works for the law firm of Mark NeJame, who's been hired to act as a CNN analyst for this case.

Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler said she had an ethical obligation to disclose that and allow Zimmerman's attorney or the special prosecutor to ask her to step down.

No one's made that request yet, but Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said that's an issue that worries him and next week he may ask her to give the case to another judge.

The judge scheduled the 10-minute hearing on her own, specifically to tell attorneys about the issue.

Zimmerman did not appear. Neither did the attorneys, who were tied into the courtroom by phone.

When Zimmerman and his family were looking for a lawyer, O'Mara told the judge, they talked to NeJame and even signed paperwork. NeJame, however, decided he'd rather be a case analyst for CNN, O'Mara said.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:18 PM
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The Zimmerman Circus: The Latest from LIONEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVyASDWnKsY

And yes, Lionel is a radio personality. He also has a rather interesting back-story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_...personality%29
http://lionelmedia.com/
He is also a Brother of Sigma Alpha Epsilon.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:53 PM
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Revelations From the Zimmerman Affidavit
The case will likely hinge on the testimony of one key witness: the young woman who was on the phone with Trayvon Martin as it all happened.
Andrew Cohen - Andrew Cohen is a contributing editor at The Atlantic and legal analyst for 60 Minutes. He is also chief analyst and legal editor for CBS Radio News and has won a Murrow Award as one of the nation's leading legal analysts and commentators

And on the 45th day we finally learned something.
From the short "Affidavit of Probable Cause -- Second Degree Murder," made public late Thursday by state prosecutors, we now know that Florida believes that George Zimmerman was chasing after Trayvon Martin just before he shot the unarmed teenager to death. This means we know that Florida officials believe that Martin was, indeed, talking on his cellphone with a friend at the time of the altercation. It means we know that officials do not believe Zimmerman's reported story that Martin attacked him from behind.
It means, in turn, that prosecutors and police believe that Martin's friend, the young woman on the other end of that fateful phone call, is credible and will be believed by both judge and jury. It means the prosecutor believes that this testimony can help overcome the state's stout self-defense law. And it also means that a case about race will ultimately become a "he said, she said" story when Zimmerman and his attorneys move to dismiss the charge against him based upon Florida's "Stand Your Ground" justifiable homicide law.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:54 PM
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The prosecutor didn't take it to the Grand Jury. Under Florida law, the maximum a prosecutor can charge without a Grand Jury is Murder in the 2nd Degree. The only difference is that with Murder in the First Degree, it has to be shown that the killing was done with malice aforethought--essentially, that means that the murder was premeditated.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:58 PM
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I will allow it....hehehe
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:04 AM
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Is anyone here familiar with the case of John McNeil in Georgia? I'm curious if all this attention to the Stand Your Ground laws will bring his case back to light.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:44 AM
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Is anyone here familiar with the case of John McNeil in Georgia? I'm curious if all this attention to the Stand Your Ground laws will bring his case back to light.
Never followed it in the first place, but I'm not expecting a totally fair treatment from an editorial on salon.com. A jury voted to convict and the highest Georgia court of appeals only had one dissent from the majority which upheld the conviction.

What did that jury and court of appeals see which wasn't presented in these articles? It wouldn't be the first case of the media attempting to mislead in order to get page clicks and viewers in a racially charged story (even if the media has to fan the flames a bit to turn it into a controversy).
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:53 AM
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Is anyone here familiar with the case of John McNeil in Georgia? I'm curious if all this attention to the Stand Your Ground laws will bring his case back to light.
This sounds terrible. I have to wonder how closely the Georgia statute tracks to the horrible Fla. law. There has to be something more than what's been reported here. Letters, some of them anonymous, led a DA to take this action?

Ultimately, despite its claim to the contrary, the legal process is as subject to infection by politics, race, money and other factors, as any other.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:40 AM
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I had not followed this story either. So I took a few seconds Kevin to do a rather fast search on it outside of Salon (which YVHO seems to be less than perfect source of informantion)
Based on following, maybe worth some time looking into as a parrell case to Zimmerman and Martin.
Stand Your Ground: Before Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, there was John McNeil

http://www.republicmagazine.com/news...hn-mcneil.html

Is John McNeil the Black George Zimmerman?
http://loop21.com/life/john-mcneil-g...orge-zimmerman
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:02 AM
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I had not followed this story either. So I took a few seconds Kevin to do a rather fast search on it outside of Salon (which YVHO seems to be less than perfect source of informantion)
Based on following, maybe worth some time looking into as a parrell case to Zimmerman and Martin.
Stand Your Ground: Before Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, there was John McNeil

http://www.republicmagazine.com/news...hn-mcneil.html

Is John McNeil the Black George Zimmerman?
http://loop21.com/life/john-mcneil-g...orge-zimmerman
You do know that Republic Magazine is not in fact New Republic Magazine, right?
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:54 AM
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You do know that Republic Magazine is not in fact New Republic Magazine, right?
KSig RC: not at all too sure what to make of your posting. Not that it really matters to me.
All I was indicating was that several posters or postings perked up my interest in John McNeil's case enough to do a fast, quick, down and dirty search on it. And that was enough to place it on my list of things to follow-up on when I have some time to do so.
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