Auburn Recruitment 2012 - Page 12

AUmom2012 · #1 08-12-2012, 07:35 PM

LOL Titchou I may have to admit defeat tomorrow!!!!! I certainly don't know much about Rush these days!!! But thanks for all that complicated info about the bids and all, I'm glad someone understands it.

Titchou · #2 08-12-2012, 07:38 PM

While there may be an NPC who doesn't require legacies who attend pref to be on their first bid list, I am not aware of who that may be. And as far as we are concerned, it is not private membership selection information as we advise legacies of it up front...as do many other NPC groups where I have friends.

carnation · #3 08-12-2012, 07:41 PM

I believe that it's Tri Delt.

TriDeltaSallie · #4 08-12-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I believe that it's Tri Delt.

Tri Delta what?

I'm not sure which comment you are responding to...

carnation · #5 08-12-2012, 08:53 PM

The one before it. Someone put a screenshot on here a couple of years ago of the Tri Delt page that said that legacies at prefs don't have to be on the first bid list.

TriDeltaSallie · #6 08-12-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

The one before it. Someone put a screenshot on here a couple of years ago of the Tri Delt page that said that legacies at prefs don't have to be on the first bid list.

Interesting.

That's definitely a change from my college days.

But I've been out of the national level loop for quite a few years so that's possible.

DeltaBetaBaby · #7 08-12-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou

While there may be an NPC who doesn't require legacies who attend pref to be on their first bid list, I am not aware of who that may be. And as far as we are concerned, it is not private membership selection information as we advise legacies of it up front...as do many other NPC groups where I have friends.

Why would you advise legacies of that? I don't think anyone should go into the pref round assuming she is a sure thing.

I know of an instance where a legacy of your group attended pref and was not given a bid to your group.

YAUmom · #8 08-12-2012, 10:09 PM

Aumom and titchou, I am not a sorority mom so when my daughter wanted to do this is was excited. As a concerned mom about her chances I looked at numbers etc and was happy to see that the out of state to in state ratios are great. However, in finding out what to do and finding rec's we were told that there is a skew towards in state including GA LA and MS. We are from the North so it concerned me that my d would be released. We were told which Sororities did not favor out of state. I did actually count last years pledges. There was an undeniable difference in some of the sororities. I did see that the overall ratios were still great and my d went in knowing she would not be invited back to some just because of her home location. She is very happy with her three remaining sororities. So in the end hopefully it will all work out as it should be. As a note another girl from our town went to two of the same sororities as my d.

AND, Thanks so much to everyone for all the very helpful information on this blog. Good luck to all the girls tomorrow.

Greek_or_Geek? · #9 08-12-2012, 10:56 PM

Some chapters skew towards a particular state, town, high school or region. This is a fact at many schools, even those outside of the SEC. One simply has to look at the bid lists to see it. It's human nature to give the benefit of the doubt to those you already know or know of. That doesn't mean OOS PNMs can't receive bids at some schools. It does mean their options may be more limited and keeping an open mind is even more important.

As far as legacies are concerned, I am personally uncomfortable about public conversations discussing their appearance on the bid lists.

Firstly, I think it's important to recognize that policies may vary between groups, both with whether the legacy is automatically on a bid list as well as whether a group has chosen to make that information public.

Secondly, I've been seeing a disconnect regarding legacies at some of the chapters I advise and it's coming from the alumnae side. PNMs are coming into recruitment misinformed about their legacy status, believing that certain relationships make them a legacy when they don't. The worst part is that it's their alumnae relative that's misinforming them. We're also not receiving legacy forms when we should because a growing number of alumnae seem to believe actives are psychic and should know snowflake is a legacy. We don't hear from the angry alumna until after snowflake's been released and she wants to know why we dared to do it.

Titchou · #10 08-12-2012, 08:00 PM

Yeah, I do too - and you'd think they would have learned by now with all the fallout they've had to deal with. Hopefully it won't happen there this year. But it is policy and printed and everything for the world to see. We don't consider that private information.

And why do you think ICS has a place for that in the software? For those groups where you are required to place them on the first bid list. Otherwise, ICS wouldn't program for it. And that's how you find out that they really didn't flag her. You can see what they put in ICS. So saying they did when they didn't isn't a good thing to do.

DeltaBetaBaby · #11 08-12-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou

Yeah, I do too - and you'd think they would have learned by now with all the fallout they've had to deal with. Hopefully it won't happen there this year. But it is policy and printed and everything for the world to see. We don't consider that private information.

This is not true for all groups, including my own. If you can find a public statement that Phi Mu automatically puts its legacies on the bid list before any other PNM's attending their preference parties, I will eat my words, but until then, I don't think anyone should be making blatant statements.

ETA: To be clear, I agree that this is not a secret guarded the way actual MS details are guarded, I'm just saying that I don't think that PNM's should make the assumption they are a sure thing, and I don't think anyone here should make statements that may lead a PNM to make that assumption.

Titchou · #12 08-12-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

This is not true for all groups, including my own. If you can find a public statement that Phi Mu automatically puts its legacies on the bid list before any other PNM's attending their preference parties, I will eat my words, but until then, I don't think anyone should be making blatant statements.

ETA: To be clear, I agree that this is not a secret guarded the way actual MS details are guarded, I'm just saying that I don't think that PNM's should make the assumption they are a sure thing, and I don't think anyone here should make statements that may lead a PNM to make that assumption.

I didn't say it was true for your group. I just said it's true for many that I know about....I didn't single out any group other than mine. And the option is there in ICS for those that do. Why do you think they'd include it in the program otherwise? Don't put words in my mouth....

GPhiBLtColonel · #13 08-12-2012, 10:42 PM

I am excited to be going to Auburn's Bid Day for the first time to help with all the festivities!

AUmom2012 · #14 08-12-2012, 11:17 PM

The OSS/IS discussion could go on and on and on. Truly it will be apparent which chapters are partial to in state/ particular city girls when the bid sheets come out in the morning. Having attended Auburn, and being an active alum, I don't have to see the bid sheets, I already know.

I told my dau and all the girls that I wrote rec's for that it all works out for the best. They will find a chapter that they like and will be happy in. The pre-Rush hype for some chapters is just that, hype. In the end, all the chapters at Auburn are great, and it is a great greek system.

I hope all the girls/mom's affiliated on this thread will have happy outcomes tomorrow!! And after all, we are ALL IN!! War Eagle!!

KSUViolet06 · #15 08-12-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

Some chapters skew towards a particular state, town, high school or region. This is a fact at many schools, even those outside of the SEC. One simply has to look at the bid lists to see it. It's human nature to give the benefit of the doubt to those you already know or know of. That doesn't mean OOS PNMs can't receive bids at some schools. It does mean their options may be more limited and keeping an open mind is even more important.

As far as legacies are concerned, I am personally uncomfortable about public conversations discussing their appearance on the bid lists.

Firstly, I think it's important to recognize that policies may vary between groups, both with whether the legacy is automatically on a bid list as well as whether a group has chosen to make that information public.

Secondly, I've been seeing a disconnect regarding legacies at some of the chapters I advise and it's coming from the alumnae side. PNMs are coming into recruitment misinformed about their legacy status, believing that certain relationships make them a legacy when they don't. The worst part is that it's their alumnae relative that's misinforming them. We're also not receiving legacy forms when we should because a growing number of alumnae seem to believe actives are psychic and should know snowflake is a legacy. We don't hear from the angry alumna until after snowflake's been released and she wants to know why we dared to do it.

^We talked about this in another thread, but "no rec form for the legacy" is my fave. As if in the middle of prepping for recruitment and doing tons of things, the actives are supposed to remember that Suzie is a legacy. I can MAYBE see that working out if the parent is highly involved, but the parent who usually doesn't send the form is the alumna who hasn't been involved, yet somehow expects the red carpet to be rolled out for her kid.

The thread:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...gacy+daughters