UF Spring Recruitment!! - Page 12

33girl · #1 01-16-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UFgatorLove

Also, girls may receive more than one bid. There was no structure to the day, and I felt bad for the girls who started off late and didn't realize just how much time it could take.

The chapters not participating are not all above total, but their nationals or advisers may say they have to participate. Its always like that at UF. So, its usually very random as to who ends up participating!

All in all it was a very good day, from what I could see!

Did I FYP correctly? As in, even if a chapter is above total, they may be told by their nationals they have to participate anyway? Are their nationals aware this isn't just an informational type event - that the majority of the PNMs assume that if a sorority is at this event, they are under total and can give bids? I mean, making one of your chapters appear there if they aren't "open for business" could result in PNMs getting very pissed off at them. I don't think any group wants that.

It sounds like there's some a lot of miscommunication going on between PNMs, nationals, GLOs and Panhel.

AOII Angel · #2 01-16-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Did I FYP correctly? As in, even if a chapter is above total, they may be told by their nationals they have to participate anyway? Are their nationals aware this isn't just an informational type event - that the majority of the PNMs assume that if a sorority is at this event, they are under total and can give bids? I mean, making one of your chapters appear there if they aren't "open for business" could result in PNMs getting very pissed off at them. I don't think any group wants that.

It sounds like there's some a lot of miscommunication going on between PNMs, nationals, GLOs and Panhel.

No, she said that the chapters that are NOT participating aren't all over total. They may have spaces open to take women, but they aren't being forced by advisors or their nationals to participate.

Old_Row · #3 01-16-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I mean, making one of your chapters appear there if they aren't "open for business" could result in PNMs getting very pissed off at them. I don't think any group wants that.

I think that's what they did last year; required all the chapters to be there at the kickoff event. It was like a bait and switch. Most were not taking new members and that caused a lot of anger among the PNMs once they found out who was participating.

FSUZeta · #4 01-17-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorPNM

Hey, I'll try to explain and answer some questions here! I just got home

So we visited all 11 chapters today. They are allowed to call us beginning at 7 PM tomorrow to extend bids. We have 48 hours to accept/decline a bid after it has been placed. They can extend bids for the next few weeks. Say if they have 10 spots available, extend 10 bids, 5 decline, they can extend 5 more.

They raised total by ~20 AFTER formal recruitment, so way more had to participate this year than usual. It was still a little frustrating though that (as always I'm assuming) some sororities are only extending bids to 3 or 4 girls, so you don't really have a chance from the start.

I can tell my mini recruitment story here! Is that allowed?

yep, here it is.

Anyone know what total at UF currently is?

HQWest · #5 01-17-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

yep, here it is.

Anyone know what total at UF currently is?

Looks like it was 160 last year? I don't know how much they raised it though? Does anyone know? Here is last springs grade reports -

https://www.studentinvolvement.ufl.e...mic_Report.pdf

It includes who took spring new members last year - PiPhi, DZ, PhiMu, and AXO?

GatorPNM · #6 01-17-2012, 06:43 PM

Being on the other side of it... it kind of does stink! Because I do have a top three, but I loved all of the girls I talked to! I would honestly be happy to join any of the sisterhoods I was at yesterday.
So because I'm assuming most girls are going to wait a little bit to accept/decline their bids, (just to see if any one else calls) even if I wait, I may already accept one and then my #1 could call 5 minutes later.
It sort of makes sense to say "Well, they didn't want you first anyway!" But some of them may only have 5 bids to give out! So if I'm #6 I'm not complaining! Especially because I'm a sophomore and I'm assuming some sororities already had friends lined up for the bids they had to give out.
Sorry this wasn't incredibly informational to anyone else! Just sayin'!

FSUZeta · #7 01-16-2012, 10:28 PM

we would love to hear, well, read, your story. maybe you could start it in the recruitment stories forum.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 01-17-2012, 12:26 AM

If they have such a large turnout of PNM's, then I suppose it is good they raised total. But if a lot of chapters are only going to offer a handful of bids, there could be a lot of disappointed women this week.

psusue · #9 01-17-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

If they have such a large turnout of PNM's, then I suppose it is good they raised total. But if a lot of chapters are only going to offer a handful of bids, there could be a lot of disappointed women this week.

This happened at PSU two springs ago. Not that we're at the level of recruitment in terms of competitiveness that FSU is, but we did a partially structured COR after raising total, and it was a bit of a mess. We did a 'invite only' round as well, which I think would have helped in this case, but it was still a mess because at the last minute they decided the CPH was going to issue bids, not the chapters. Not to mention several chapters only has 3-5 spots open and pretty much knew who they wanted to fill them, there were a lot of disappointed and jaded women afterward. Hope it turns out better for FSU.

DeltaBetaBaby · #10 01-17-2012, 01:14 AM

I also think that, when you have this many women coming out for informal, you have to ask yourself why these women aren't showing up in the fall for FR.

GatorPNM · #11 01-17-2012, 01:24 AM

People aren't always rushing in fall because people are coming from all different situations and backgrounds.
It really frustrates me that so many sororities are so obsessed with the perfect PNM; a fall freshman. And I understand it's for money purposes, but it still makes me angry. Not everyone can be at the same school for four years and be ready to do recruitment their first semester!
Especially now at UF that a pretty decent percentage of students are being accepted into spring out of high school. So they will never get a chance to really rush because so many sororities don't do spring, and then they automatically have the upperclassmen thing attached to them if they wait until fall.
Sorry for the little rant!

33girl · #12 01-17-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I also think that, when you have this many women coming out for informal, you have to ask yourself why these women aren't showing up in the fall for FR.

That could just be an indication that the demographics of the school are changing...that many new students are unsure of/don't really know one way or the other about Greek life.

KSUViolet06 · #13 01-17-2012, 02:45 AM

^^^The spring turnout is probably a little different than fall, probably some transfers, upperclassmen who weren't sure about FR, etc.

DubaiSis · #14 01-17-2012, 07:45 AM

This is why I also think the campus panhellenics should endeavor to have actual total be very close to the prescribed total. I'm all for having a portion of the chapters "have" to do a spring rush in order to make up for the girls who pledged but didn't initiate, early grads and the variety of other reasons they lose members in a semester. Then they can accommodate the girls who simply didn't know better or who were so unprepared that they just bombed during rush when they are otherwise good candidates.

When they're so far over total the only chapters informal rushing are the ones that are struggling and that puts a negative connotation on informal rush.

Are there any inklings of expansion at UF? In the meantime, increasing total is at least a compromise.

I would like to see them do a Preference Night to help solidify some decisions on both sides and maybe give some girls a head's up that #1 super duper chapter is not going to be calling in a week when they have a bid from perfectly fine chapter in hand right now.

AlphaFrog · #15 01-17-2012, 09:55 AM

^^^Oh, I didn't even think about women turning down bids in case they're on the 2nd (or 3rd) list of the chapter they really wanted. As an adult, I would love to point out to those women that the chapter that had them on first bid list really want them, so why take a chance on being sloppy seconds at another group? Remembering back to my 19 year old self, though, that argument wouldn't have flown very far.

I can also see this being a big hot mess if all the chapters want the same set of girls. If you have 10 chapters that can give 20 bids, that's technically 200 bids - but how many are going to go to the same 20 or so girls? This could take awhile to get sorted out.