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05-12-2010, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
My speculations about the episode:
As usual, the underlying questions the episode posed are about destiny versus free-will -- does everything happen because it is supposed to or does it happen because we make it? One brother represents destiny, one represents self-determination. One represents obedience, one represents defiance.
Prior to the fake-mother's interference (because she truly didn't believe in her heart that the right thing would happen without her intercession), neither Jacob nor the man in black were wholly good or bad. Both of them were hurting because she killed their real mother, but man in black was brave enough to strike out on his own. Jacob felt that the woman was all he had.
I believe that the golden light represents hope, and the island is the cork keeping hope in the box like Pandora's box. Evil had already been unleashed into the world, but if the island keeps "hope" then it keeps it alive in all of us. If it leaves, then hope inside all of us dies and we are lost.
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That's very insightful. All I kept thinking was "Jacob is a punk." I like your thoughts better. I couldn't find you to write on your wall during the episode either. 
This episode really made me like MiB more if I could ignore that he's killed so many people. What I couldn't figure out is if the smoke monster is really Jacob's brother, or if it took the form of Jacob's brother after he died? It could be that we still don't know the smoke monster's true identity.
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05-12-2010, 04:04 PM
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That's very insightful. All I kept thinking was "Jacob is a punk." I like your thoughts better. I couldn't find you to write on your wall during the episode either.
This episode really made me like MiB more if I could ignore that he's killed so many people. What I couldn't figure out is if the smoke monster is really Jacob's brother, or if it took the form of Jacob's brother after he died? It could be that we still don't know the smoke monster's true identity. |
Based on the "burial" scene where Jacob arranges the body of his "mom" and his brother, I'm leaning toward Smokie having taken the form of the brother, and not the brother actually being Smokie. It was probably an additional torment to Jacob for the monster having chosen that form seeing as he "killed" his own brother.
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05-18-2010, 02:28 AM
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How come we haven't seen Benjamin Linus in a while? Did something happen to him? I can barely keep this show straight anymore. Thank God they recap it every week.
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05-12-2010, 01:15 PM
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^^ I was wondering the same thing.
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05-18-2010, 08:40 AM
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^^^ I've been wondering this too. and where did Richard go? Are Richard and Ben together? What about widmore? Did they all escape the wrath of the smoke monster? I think the smoke monster definately just took the form of Jacobs brother after the brother died. I think it can take the form of any dead body that's on the island. Remember MiB said he posed as Jacks dad, and Doc Sheperd Sr's body was on the island. He took the form of Lockes body as soon as it arrived on the island(s).
I dont care about Sun and Jin so much. They're fine in the flash-sideways. And we still don't know which reality is true. I was sad to see Sayid go though. he's always been my favorite... until he kinda went crazy this past season. And poor Lipedous...he didn't do anything be be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Oh... and why the shit didnt Kate tell Claire that Claires mom has Aaron safe and sound now? You'd think that would make Claire less of a nutjob. I suppose that would make too much sense... I've always thought Kate was a twit.
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05-18-2010, 06:08 PM
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cant wait for tonights ep! Its the last Tuesday LOST ep ever 
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05-18-2010, 11:53 PM
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i did NOT realize the finale is on SUNDAY!!!! arugh!!! my husband is gonna be PISSED. he'll miss it, i'll have to DVR it for him.
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05-18-2010, 11:55 PM
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What do you all think of Jack volunteering?
And whoa on all of the connections going on alt reality. I'm not sure how they're going to tie it all up on Sunday. Anyone know how long the episode will be??
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05-19-2010, 08:54 AM
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Anyone know how long the episode will be??
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I think this is the breakdown:
7 - 9pm Series recap
9 - 11:30 Series finale
Jimmy Kimmel Live (after local news) Series wrap-up
That's the way I understand it, anyway.
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05-19-2010, 12:24 AM
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Apparently I missed something, what happened to Miles? He went to hide but then wasn't there with Zoe and Widmore
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05-19-2010, 08:21 AM
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Apparently I missed something, what happened to Miles? He went to hide but then wasn't there with Zoe and Widmore
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He didn't hide, he ran. Widmore and Zoe hid, Richard went to go reason with it, and Ben provided backup while Miles ran into the woods.
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05-19-2010, 09:04 AM
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He didn't hide, he ran. Widmore and Zoe hid, Richard went to go reason with it, and Ben provided backup while Miles ran into the woods.
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Sooo is Richard dead now? I thought he couldnt die?
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05-19-2010, 09:05 AM
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Sooo is Richard dead now? I thought he couldnt die?
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I think Richard said he couldn't die, but he could be killed.
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05-19-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SydneyK
I think this is the breakdown:
7 - 9pm Series recap
9 - 11:30 Series finale
Jimmy Kimmel Live (after local news) Series wrap-up
That's the way I understand it, anyway.
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Thank you!! But seriously - 2-hour recap??
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Sooo is Richard dead now? I thought he couldnt die?
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I didn't see him die.
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
I think Richard said he couldn't die, but he could be killed.
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I too thought he couldn't die. Smokey made that happen. Then again never trust a smoke monster...
Funny, though, Ben seemed to not care what happens to him anymore. He figures he's going to die anyway, so he's asking questions and doing pretty much whatever he (thinks smokey) wants him to do.
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05-19-2010, 01:35 PM
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As for Jack... good for him. I think it's always been him. I think he's the one who Jacob hoped would volunteer.
What about Desmond being a failsafe for Jack/the island? I didn't get that.
I agree, I think Miles will get back to Widmore's body. Can't say I was sad to see Widmore go.
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