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07-17-2007, 08:58 PM
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Vick indicted in dog fighting case
RICHMOND, Va. - Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury on charges related to illegal dogfighting.
Vick and three others are charged with competitive dogfighting, procuring and training pit bulls for fighting and conducting the enterprise across state lines.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...PHCP>1=10239
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This is disgusting...to treat animals in such a way is foul and evil. I hope all involved are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If in fact Vick was involved, I hope that his money doesn't get him out of it.
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07-17-2007, 09:16 PM
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He's an idiot. Why would you even do something so dumb when you make MILLIONS of dollars?
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07-17-2007, 10:13 PM
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From what I have read.....Vick is more than likely going to be in some deep shit. I read on ESPN that they found something like 12 or 13 dead pit bull carcases on his property.
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07-17-2007, 10:20 PM
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I'm not any kind of big animal rights activist, but dog fighting or even rooster fighting makes me think you'd have to be a really sick person to be involved in it or watch it. How could it be entertaining for a normally adjusted person to watch two animals fight to the death?
It seems an indication of personality flaws like torturing animals as a kid can be part of the homicidal triad.
ETA: I'd like to see the Falcons release Vick. Surely there's something in his contract about how he represents the organization. (They might have to wait for conviction to play it safe, but a federal indictment is damaging enough when you are talking about branding of an organization. Well, any organization except a sports team I guess. Why do some athletes who have had so many opportunities choose to be thugs?
His defense right now is that it was relatives of his who did it. Okay, raise your hands if your relatives could run a 65 dog fighting ring at your house (any one of your houses) and you wouldn't know about it.
(But the particulate in the water bottle wasn't weed, so maybe Michael Vick is the Cassandra of our time. )
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07-17-2007, 11:03 PM
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I live in the same area as where Vick's house is. The story has obviously been all over our news. The dog fighting was found after a drug warrant was being served on his cousin who lived in his house. To make matters worse, the local commonwealth's attorney kept delaying investigating the dogfighting. He even did serve a search warrant filed on the case. He kept saying that he would not be forced into convicting him. The feds got involved, and look where he is now.
One surprising thing is that PETA is also in this area and have been pretty quiet about the situation.
I persoanlly think it is time for the NFL to wipe its hand's clean of Mr. Vick.
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07-17-2007, 11:48 PM
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I am an animal lover and I hope the Falcons release him and I would love to see him put UNDER the jail. He can get 6 years max...not nearly enough
If he is guilty then he is a sick bastard who needs to be destroyed
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07-18-2007, 03:35 AM
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One surprising thing is that PETA is also in this area and have been pretty quiet about the situation.
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Not surprising if you know anything about PETA. PETA kills more animals than they save, and have statements on the record that indicate that they are for the extinction of certain dog breeds, pit bulls being one of them.
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07-18-2007, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
dog fighting or even rooster fighting makes me think you'd have to be a really sick person to be involved in it or watch it. How could it be entertaining for a normally adjusted person to watch two animals fight to the death?
It seems an indication of personality flaws like torturing animals as a kid can be part of the homicidal triad.
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And the sad part is these animals cannot help themselves from fighting. They are bred to fight, generally. And the roosters are male against male.
And to actually watch it... I hate the fight matches mice and rats have when one has to place breeders in the same cage. But THAT IS ILLEGAL and against the Animal Care and Use Committee.
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07-18-2007, 03:42 AM
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And the sad part is these animals cannot help themselves from fighting. They are bred to fight, generally.
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Ah, the nature versus nurture argument. While the breed's original purpose was to breed for gameness and pit fighting characteristics, they still need training to fight.
My pittie and her littermates were rescued from a fighting house. Tasha is the sweetest thing and is submissive to every dog she meets, while a littermate of hers had to be adopted out to a home with no other dogs because she will try to kill ANY other animal she sees that is smaller or near her size. It was heartbreaking because Tasha wasn't taking to her training, so her original owner was starving her to make her mean, while her more aggressive littermates were getting steaks. Didn't work. Does this mean her littermate was born aggressive? No, it means that they were more open to the training and treatment of their former owner.
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12-15-2007, 05:24 AM
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I read on ESPN that they found something like 12 or 13 dead pit bull carcases on his property.
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What an asshole.
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07-20-2007, 04:28 PM
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He's an idiot. Why would you even do something so dumb when you make MILLIONS of dollars?
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EXACTLY!!!!
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07-19-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93
This is disgusting...to treat animals in such a way is foul and evil. I hope all involved are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If in fact Vick was involved, I hope that his money doesn't get him out of it.
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I agree
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07-20-2007, 10:25 AM
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I agree 
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Me too...
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07-20-2007, 10:48 AM
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I first off want to say that I am against all forms of dog fighting...
I think some people may need to realize though that this is a lot more prevalent than what you think... that does not mean it should be accepted though.
Dog fighting for many in urban, high crime rate areas and even rural areas is something that they have grown up around. Something that at an early age they saw and began to accept. I think Chicago has some of the highest numbers in the reports.
So when I hear comments from other players on tv about dog fighting being seen as almost normal while it might seem odd to some. Others take it as almost this sub culture and it appears that many players in the NFL participate in it.
In more rural area these fights usually take place at night in areas hidden and not really spoken about. The same goes for cock fighting around here (which I find more common where I am from). In more urban areas they are usually on back streets. So it usually pretty hard for law enforcement to get warrents and find enough evidence to convict someone on dog fighting (most times they are just charged with animal cruelty).
I think that due to his big name that they are going to make an example of him to show that this should not be tolerated...
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07-20-2007, 10:51 AM
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I think that due to his big name that they are going to make an example of him to show that this should not be tolerated...
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Good for them. I completely support that idea.
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