Atheists as members? - Page 11

Tom Earp · #**151** 07-16-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal_South

Would you, sir, defend your honor with your life? I would, in the gentlemenly manor by which those before us have. Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence at one point or another participated in a duel, and you might even recall the story of Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasurey, and Aaron Burr, Vice-President of the United States engaging in a duel of honor. The defending of honor is not a concept I would except a Canadian to understand.

Interesting, but remember, dueling was outlawed after that altercation.

RACooper · #**152** 07-16-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal_South

The defending of honor is not a concept I would except a Canadian to understand.

What's with the bloody insult? First you claim to be a "gentleman" and then you question both my personal honour and that of Canada... now as for a duel, I'll be more than happy to fence with you any day

Tom Earp · #**153** 07-16-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RACooper

What's with the bloody insult? First you claim to be a "gentleman" and then you question both my personal honour and that of Canada... now as for a duel, I'll be more than happy to fence with you any day

Will You allow Me to be your second?

I will make an exception in this case!

Ignorance is in the eye of the beholder, but some must have very narrow eye slits to the world of life.

Stef the Pef · #**154** 07-16-2006, 05:59 PM

Hmmm...I have to wonder about the original topic of this thread...

I have friends in Christian GLOs like Sigma Phi Lambda, Beta Upsilon Chi, Phi Kappa Chi, and Kappa Chi Alpha--for the most part, they're pretty accepting of whoever is interested in joining. Anyone know if specifically Christian organizations have a religion requirement or not? (Not that an atheist would be comfortable with the weekly chapter Bible study so much, but I have to wonder...?)

DSTRen13 · #**155** 07-16-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stef the Pef

Hmmm...I have to wonder about the original topic of this thread...

I have friends in Christian GLOs like Sigma Phi Lambda, Beta Upsilon Chi, Phi Kappa Chi, and Kappa Chi Alpha--for the most part, they're pretty accepting of whoever is interested in joining. Anyone know if specifically Christian organizations have a religion requirement or not? (Not that an atheist would be comfortable with the weekly chapter Bible study so much, but I have to wonder...?)

My understanding is that Alpha Delta Chi does (you have to regularly attend a church approved by the sorority).

Liberal_South · #**156** 07-16-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RACooper

What's with the bloody insult? First you claim to be a "gentleman" and then you question both my personal honour and that of Canada... now as for a duel, I'll be more than happy to fence with you any day

Foil, Epee, or Sabre? I will duel left handed in order to make it fair.

RACooper · #**157** 07-16-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal_South

Foil, Epee, or Sabre? I will duel left handed in order to make it fair.

Lets say Sabre... and you can use you strong hand - after all it wouldn't be fitting to defeat you unless you had a chance

I've been fencing since 1988, and for the Carleton University team from 1993-1996...

Liberal_South · #**158** 07-17-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RACooper

Lets say Sabre... and you can use you strong hand - after all it wouldn't be fitting to defeat you unless you had a chance

I've been fencing since 1988, and for the Carleton University team from 1993-1996...

I'm not going to carry on this facade any longer. But I will say that it's a shame that you're carrying on your glory days 10 years out.

Cube TX · #**159** 07-17-2006, 03:45 PM

I fence too. In fact, I'm looking to put one in my backyard so that my dog won't get out.

Drolefille · #**160** 07-17-2006, 03:47 PM

How big of a dog? Cause you should definately go with a big fence for a big dog.

Unless it's an atheist dog, then he won't be able to make the leap of faith over a fence.

... on topic?

Liberal_South · #**161** 07-17-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

How big of a dog? Cause you should definately go with a big fence for a big dog.

Unless it's an atheist dog, then he won't be able to make the leap of faith over a fence.

... on topic?

Depends if the dog has taken on oath or not.

Tom Earp · #**162** 07-17-2006, 04:52 PM

Thank You all very damn much!

I now have to clean off my screen as spit grape juice all over it!

MysticCat · #**163** 07-18-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

So I don't understand that concept. Most oaths made do not involve one to God.. I'm not even talking about fraternity oaths. Atheists in court swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth... adding God in doesn't change anything.

Actually, by definition most oaths do call on God or some other sacred principle to witness and bind the oath -- as in the way the courtroom oath ends, "So help me God."

In court, at least, if God is not invoked, it's called an Affirmation, not an Oath. It begins "I do solemnly affirm" rather than "I do solemnly swear," and it ends without "So help me God." The form is different, but the legal effect is the same.

And 33girl is right. Interestingly, Affirmations were first used not to accomodate atheists, but to accomodate Quakers and other Christian groups who believe that oath-taking is prohibited by Scripture.

Just trying to pick another high-jack discussion with you, Drolefille.

AlphaFrog · #**164** 07-18-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat81

Just trying to pick another high-jack discussion with you, Drolefille.

That's not nice. You're going to get her in trouble.

Drolefille · #**165** 07-18-2006, 10:26 AM

LOL it's ok, again this topic is going nowhere else...

Yeah there are affirmations, and you do often swear BY something, but I don't think it requires God to make it mean anything...

Nor is an "affirmation" less valid.