The growth of radical Islam

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
That's a good question.

Can't say it's funded by the government but I can say it has it's hands in the government.

The KKK is not spreading christianity.

It attacks Protestant Blacks.

-Rudey

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Let me make sure I got this right, no middle eastern country has any ties to ever backing terrorism, and the US is funding the KKK?

Please re-read my comment.

I said it has it's hands in it. NOT BEING BACKED BY IT.

There's a difference.

Just like Hamas NOW has it hands in the Palestine government.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Shortfuse

Please re-read my comment.

I said it has it's hands in it. NOT BEING BACKED BY IT.

There's a difference.

Just like Hamas NOW has it hands in the Palestine government.

Can you provide some evidence that the KKK has its hand in the US Government? Last time I checked we weren't living in the 1920's and early 1930's..........when the Klan actually did control several state governements and had a large effect on the DNC.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by Rudey
The KKK is not spreading christianity.

It attacks Protestant Blacks.

-Rudey

Who said anything about spreading? This part of the dialogue was about backing.

There IS a difference. The CRUSADES were about spreading.

The "Islamic fundamentalist" that you're talking about ARE NOT TRYING TO SPREAD ISLAM. They're not tyring to "convert" people.

They're trying to get rid of Western Influence.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
Please re-read my comment.

I said it has it's hands in it. NOT BEING BACKED BY IT.

There's a difference.

Just like Hamas NOW has it hands in the Palestine government.

It's funny how Hamas and the KKK are different.

Hamas is a religious organization (founded as a branch of the Muslim brotherhood) and separates itself from the other terror groups in the area by that religion factor. If the whites and black and whatever races are there in Israel converted to Islam tomorrow and Israel became a Muslim state, Hamas would be happy. Currently Hamas runs the Palestinian government.

The KKK attacks protestant blacks because they are black, not because they are of another religion. The KKK was founded as a social organization. Currently the KKK does not run the American government.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
Who said anything about spreading? This part of the dialogue was about backing.

There IS a difference. The CRUSADES were about spreading.

The "Islamic fundamentalist" that you're talking about ARE NOT TRYING TO SPREAD ISLAM. They're not tyring to "convert" people.

They're trying to get rid of Western Influence.

I'm not sure there is much wiggle room between the two, but either way "According to statements broadcast by al-Qaeda on the internet and on satellite TV channels, the ultimate goal of al-Qaeda is to re-establish the Caliphate across the Islamic world, by working with allied Islamic extremist groups to overthrow secular or Western-supported regimes. "

-Rudey

Dashboard Mohammed for sale by an ex-Marine:
http://www.dashboardmohammed.com/proofs.html

A ceramic bobblehead doll of the Prophet Muhammed - created to resemble the infamous caricature published by a Danish newspaper - is being hawked online for $22.99 a pop by an ex-Marine.

The unapologetic creator, Timothy Ames, 28, said the bobblehead is similar to "dashboard Jesus" figurines that can be stuck with adhesive to flat surfaces. "I thought, 'If they flipped out over some cartoons what will they do with a dashboard Muhammed?'" Ames said from his home in Hawaii.

But Islamic experts are not amused, saying the bobbleheads could anger Muslims, whose religion strictly prohibits depictions of the prophet.

"No depiction of the prophet, even if it is positive, should be made ever - and certainly not one as ridiculous as the bobblehead Muhammed," said Zvi Ben-Dor Benite, an assistant professor at New York University. "I don't think it's about freedom of speech. This is the freedom to insult, which he shouldn't be doing."

[_Opi_]

Originally Posted by OTW

Dashboard Mohammed for sale by an ex-Marine:
http://www.dashboardmohammed.com/proofs.html

I don't understand what this has to do with the growth of Radical Islam. If anything, it deserves a thread on its own about how prejudicial or disrespectful individuals are towards Islam and the followers of Islam.

Oh well, what can you do, right?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by _Opi_

I don't understand what this has to do with the growth of Radical Islam. If anything, it deserves a thread on its own about how prejudicial or disrespectful individuals are towards Islam and the followers of Islam.

Oh well, what can you do, right?

I have no problem with it. People are allowed to be disrespectful towards Christians, Jews, etc., so why not Islam?

If they want to have riots and trample each other to death, that sounds like their own problem. I really don't see why the west cares. They're only doing this because so far, we have responded by giving them what they wanted. The Pope apologized, the Danes apologized, everyone apologized. If we continue to reward this behavior, we can expect it to continue.

[_Opi_]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I have no problem with it. People are allowed to be disrespectful towards Christians, Jews, etc., so why not Islam?

If they want to have riots and trample each other to death, that sounds like their own problem. I really don't see why the west cares. They're only doing this because so far, we have responded by giving them what they wanted. The Pope apologized, the Danes apologized, everyone apologized. If we continue to reward this behavior, we can expect it to continue.

Kevin, if someone insulted your way of life, your religion, ethnicity, etc. you have the right to speak out against it. Hate speech or the like should no be tolerated, right? If you a Christian, and a group berated your religion, would you not say something about it? That's how I feel.

Second, who's they?

Third, last time I checked, I was part of the west and so are many other muslims. Are you saying we dont have a right to speak against those who attack our way of life? Geez, ,and I thought this was America.