Prejudism - Page 11

Honeykiss1974 · #1 06-20-2002, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Cream
I was asking a sincere question.
I was about to write a novel of a post as to what I think the problem of racism is and some ways to change the status quo, but I thought that I would get some feedback before I posted.

Honeykiss, How I see racism is probably not that different from how you see racism. Unless you meant 'you' in a general way which I can't tell.

I meant "YOU" and "I" in the general sense, not you personally.

Dionysus · #2 06-20-2002, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Cream
Today I attended a conference. The room was evenly divided on bureaucratic stuff. Not that it was unimportant, but it took time away from what was important, i.e. finding a solution. It kind of reminded me of this thread. Which makes me curious, does anyone have any solutions to this issue of prejudice, racism, bigotry, intolerance, and fear? I mean real practical things that we can do to improve this world.

Good EXPOSURE to people unlike your kind, IMO, can be a solution. Integration can help if the experience is good, but it can also harm if the experience is bad.

Peaches-n-Cream · #3 06-20-2002, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974

I meant "YOU" and "I" in the general sense, not you personally.

That's what I thought that you meant.

RUgreek · #4 06-21-2002, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by neicy81
A forum is:

1. A public meeting place for open discussion.
2. A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper or a radio or television program.

A rebuttal is :

rebuttal

n 1: the act of refuting by offering a contrary contention or argument

Read it, study it, digest these definitions if you will!

You know neicy81,

I don't really give a hoot and holla if you're white, black, male, female, dumb, or smart. You're just a b**ch (or if you prefer an a**hole) for posting an antagonistic reply such as that. Are you trying to create a forum of intellectual debate or just being a snob at people. There are certain ways a person can reply and be respectful, since you don't have the decency for others, I be the first to tell someone off.

If you really believed half the comments about racism that you said, then you could show a little maturity.

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If racism is discriminating and discrimination is

discrimination

n 1: unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice

then please tell me how he used to treat whites unfair.

Where exactly in that definition does PAST prejudice (or prejudism

) come into play? I read unfair treatment of a person, nothing about past unfair treatment. Just because someone like Farrawhozakan is pissed off at white people that doesn't justify his hatred and anti-semetism. I think I'm beginning to understand you're logic: Black people have been wronged for X amount of years which means they earned "Racism points" to redeem on white people for X years, is that what will make you feel better?

(By the way, I know I'm a harsh poster, but please anyone out there that feels offended, try not to, this is a discussion. I have no intentions of offending anyone on a personal level. For some reason, in this day and age, I can't conclude a post without this little blurb, thank you.)

- RUgreek

neicy81 · #5 06-21-2002, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by RUgreek

"You know neicy81,

I don't really give a hoot and holla if you're white, black, male, female, dumb, or smart. You're just a b**ch (or if you prefer an a**hole) for posting an antagonistic reply such as that. Are you trying to create a forum of intellectual debate or just being a snob at people. There are certain ways a person can reply and be respectful, since you don't have the decency for others, I be the first to tell someone off."

Really? And just how decent was Tom Earp's last post? I was repying to that. If you READ, maybe you would understand that.

If you really believed half the comments about racism that you said, then you could show a little maturity.

"Where exactly in that definition does PAST prejudice (or prejudism ) come into play? I read unfair treatment of a person, nothing about past unfair treatment. Just because someone like Farrawhozakan is pissed off at white people that doesn't justify his hatred and anti-semetism. I think I'm beginning to understand you're logic: Black people have been wronged for X amount of years which means they earned "Racism points" to redeem on white people for X years, is that what will make you feel better?"

It shocks me how much you don't READ. I stated that Farrakhan reneged on his original belief that he thought whites were devils. But I guessed you missed that huh???

(By the way, I know I'm a harsh poster, but please anyone out there that feels offended, try not to, this is a discussion. I have no intentions of offending anyone on a personal level. For some reason, in this day and age, I can't conclude a post without this little blurb, thank you.)

- RUgreek

thesweetestone · #6 06-21-2002, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by RUgreek

You know neicy81,

I don't really give a hoot and holla if you're white, black, male, female, dumb, or smart. You're just a b**ch (or if you prefer an a**hole) for posting an antagonistic reply such as that. Are you trying to create a forum of intellectual debate or just being a snob at people. There are certain ways a person can reply and be respectful, since you don't have the decency for others, I be the first to tell someone off.

RUgreek · #7 06-21-2002, 02:33 AM

1) I read all posts, but apparently you don't do enough research before commenting.

2) I don't think posting a dictionary definition does any sort of accomplishment on your side.

3) Farrakhan is not the issue here, but if you will, he still hates Jews.

The issue here is why racism is not something the african-american community can commit on other races.

Discuss...

neicy81 · #8 06-21-2002, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by RUgreek
1) I read all posts, but apparently you don't do enough research before commenting.

2) I don't think posting a dictionary definition does any sort of accomplishment on your side.

3) Farrakhan is not the issue here, but if you will, he still hates Jews.

The issue here is why racism is not something the african-american community can commit on other races.

Discuss...

If you did in fact read all posts, (which you didn't) then you would have known that I've been getting the same nonsense argument from Tom Earp for a while. He stated that I had a rebuttal for everything and I posted the definition of a rebuttal along with a forum so HE would know what the purpose of it is. It accomplished him understanding what a forum consists of.Perhaps you would care to take a look one more time. It hasn't been deleted hun. Also if Farrakhan is not the issue here, then why oh why include him in discussion?

RUgreek · #9 06-21-2002, 02:46 AM

damnit I swear I'm reading everything, now twice... I don't see what you're trying to prove. I can't speak for Tom, but i don't think it takes a genius to understand the definition of words here other than Racism, which is what was being debated, IMO.

If you want Farrakhan (sp?) included in the discussion, that's fine. But the man is brought up not as a topic but an example of racism (er anti-semetism more specifically). But he's not the big problem, getting through this simple problem of understanding what racism is and who is responsible for it should be settled first.

- RUgreek

neicy81 · #10 06-21-2002, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by RUgreek
damnit I swear I'm reading everything, now twice... I don't see what you're trying to prove. I can't speak for Tom, but i don't think it takes a genius to understand the definition of words here other than Racism, which is what was being debated, IMO.

If you want Farrakhan (sp?) included in the discussion, that's fine. But the man is brought up not as a topic but an example of racism (er anti-semetism more specifically). But he's not the big problem, getting through this simple problem of understanding what racism is and who is responsible for it should be settled first.

- RUgreek

This is what Tom posted:

"neicey, while I feel you have a valid idea, do not , place us all in the same catagory as you sometimes seem to be doing! We do not hate yyoouu but try to understand what you go on aobut! You fire at everyone on this site no matter who, Black, Red, Yellow, or white! "

Again which is why I gave him the definitions.

Regarding Farrakhan, I never said I DID want him in the discussion. He was mentioned and you can't mention a person as an example without commenting on him at all. Doesn't work like that.

RUgreek · #11 06-21-2002, 02:52 AM

what exactly in that posts prompts a reply with definitions of rebuttal and forum? I just want to understand you're thinking, then maybe we can move on...

neicy81 · #12 06-21-2002, 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by RUgreek
what exactly in that posts prompts a reply with definitions of rebuttal and forum? I just want to understand you're thinking, then maybe we can move on...

Tom has stated previously:

I feel everyone has bent over Backwards to work with this individual who keeps bringing it up and always has a rebutal for everything!

And his latest...

You fire at everyone.......

that is why I posted definitions.

RUgreek · #13 06-21-2002, 03:02 AM

yes, i read those a while back...

what is it about the definition of racism that bothers you?

neicy81 · #14 06-21-2002, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by RUgreek
yes, i read those a while back...

what is it about the definition of racism that bothers you?

Those definitions don't have anything to do with racism.

RUgreek · #15 06-21-2002, 03:06 AM

i know, i'm asking you specifically about racism...