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03-17-2015, 09:08 PM
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I'm not sure that's enough to make someone racist... [but it certainly calls into question their judgment and character.]
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As a recently banned GCer said in a slightly different context in a now-closed thread:
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Here is the continuum:
Dumb -------------- Insensitive ----------------- Racist
Something can be considered dumb and insensitive without it being considered "racist". Something being dumb and insensitive is enough to axe it without question.
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I think it's possible for someone to be stupid, insensitive or even ignorant and, as a result to engage in racist behavior without racism being so pervasive in who they are that deserve to be called "racists." Put another way, I sometimes (not always) think it's more helpful to talk about actions and attitudes being racist than about people being racists. Sometimes. (Which is why I put the remainder of Kevin's quote back in.)
That's why I'm always a little skeptical when I hear someone say something like "there's not a racist bone in my body." I'm sure there are people for whom that's true, but I don't think it's true of most of us. I know it's not for me. I certainly don't mean to be racist—I mean not be be—but sometimes I have to look honestly at myself and, perhaps at a certain attitude or reaction, and admit that it's not pretty and that it needs to change.
I don't think I'm a racist, but that doesn't mean I'm free of the subtle racisms pervading the society of which I am part of the majority. Personally, I think it's healthier to admit that and try to be on guard for it than to deceive myself into thinking that I don't have a racist bone in my body.
My sinuses are not happy at all right now, so apologies if this isn't making any sense.
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03-17-2015, 04:10 PM
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Welp, Dr. Phil is doing a episode on this today. That's some serious publicity.
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03-17-2015, 11:18 PM
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You're right. I shouldn't have used the word "probably."
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03-18-2015, 12:02 AM
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You're right. I shouldn't have used the word "probably."
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03-18-2015, 08:18 AM
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Thank God, students at UGA are now safe from the horror of racist hoop skirts.
http://onlineathens.com/uga/2015-03-...aternity-video
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03-18-2015, 10:51 AM
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Wow. That seems rather treating the symptoms and ignoring the problem. Besides, you and I both know sometimes you just need a good farthingale to feel like a pretty princess.
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03-18-2015, 09:59 AM
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One less thing.
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03-18-2015, 11:07 AM
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Next up - corsets and petticoats have GOT TO GO. Who knew the problem was so easy to solve?
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03-18-2015, 11:16 AM
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If we only thought to do this in the 1700's many nasty revolutions probably could have been avoided.
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03-18-2015, 02:43 PM
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Sigma Alpha Epsilon National Fraternity apologizes, unveils diversity plan to combat racial intolerance http://fw.to/6tsExBW
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03-18-2015, 05:05 PM
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SMH. This will do nothing to solve any problem. As with everything, the people who need to hear it the most will listen the least. Get rid of the chapters that espouse racist views and quit acting like the fraternity makes the person.
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03-18-2015, 05:24 PM
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SMH. This will do nothing to solve any problem. As with everything, the people who need to hear it the most will listen the least. Get rid of the chapters that espouse racist views and quit acting like the fraternity makes the person.
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03-18-2015, 06:24 PM
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SMH. This will do nothing to solve any problem. As with everything, the people who need to hear it the most will listen the least. Get rid of the chapters that espouse racist views and quit acting like the fraternity makes the person.
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But it still wouldn't be good enough for some people and there is a reason these diversity workshops seem to be the go-to solution. It gives a sense of pro-activness.
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03-19-2015, 12:43 PM
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How we made #SAE the most diverse frat in our Texas school's history http://wpo.st/PIP90 Sigma Alpha Epsilon Fraternity
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03-19-2015, 01:00 PM
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Hoops skirts don't make people racist. But hoop skirts worn in the context of celebrating "Southern Roots" is a visual reminder of the Confederacy and all the things that go with it. So if you don't want to portray yourself as racist to outsiders, perhaps a little distance from costumes of that era would be a good idea. Too bad that people couldn't come to this realization on their own prior to this mandate.
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