Auburn Recruitment 2012

[irishpipes]

I wrote a rec this year for a PNM who is a double in-house legacy, but she really did not want to pledge her sisters' chapter. She didn't really have an issue with the chapter, but had always been in the shadow of her siblings and wanted to branch out on her own. Her recruitment just ended, and I guess she got cut massively first round by the non-legacy groups and by the end of the week had nothing left but the legacy chapter. She did accept her bid but is very upset. I hope she gives it a chance.

I warned her that as an in-house legacy assumptions might be made by other chapters. I feel for her.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I wrote a rec this year for a PNM who is a double in-house legacy, but she really did not want to pledge her sisters' chapter. She didn't really have an issue with the chapter, but had always been in the shadow of her siblings and wanted to branch out on her own. Her recruitment just ended, and I guess she got cut massively first round by the non-legacy groups and by the end of the week had nothing left but the legacy chapter. She did accept her bid but is very upset. I hope she gives it a chance.

I warned her that as an in-house legacy assumptions might be made by other chapters. I feel for her.

Was this at Auburn? I'm just throw off about how she has a bid to accept already.

Under the circumstances, if it is at Auburn, I think you'd assume that she's getting that bid, but bid day is tomorrow right?

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Was this at Auburn? I'm just throw off about how she has a bid to accept already.

Under the circumstances, if it is at Auburn, I think you'd assume that she's getting that bid, but bid day is tomorrow right?

My guess is that it was at OK State, but she's putting it here in the discussion of in-house legacies...

[FSUZeta]

Auburn girls get their bids tomorrow.

[AUmom2012]

Oh the situation on the in-house legacy I was referring to was with the in-house sister not participating in Rush as she was out of town. I suspect the cut was easier to make with her not there.

And as far as bids go, if you went to a pref party today as a legacy, you will be at that chapter's top of bid list per their nationals rules (Ithink).

My dau did go to three parties today so most likely will receive a bid from one of the three. She really likes her 1 pick and could be happy in 2 or 3. Being out of state has been difficult. There aren't enough girls from our hometown to make a push in the sororities, and that makes a HUGE difference. We had 4 girls I think going through Rush from here, at UGA there were 17 girls....see what I mean. My dau cut her legacy chapter, which was fine with me, it was a good safety net for the week. I know she'll be happy anywhere!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AUmom2012

And as far as bids go, if you went to a pref party today as a legacy, you will be at that chapter's top of bid list per their nationals rules (Ithink).

Membership selection is private information.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Membership selection is private information.

My group's policy about legacies on the bid list is available pretty openly on the web, and I've seen other groups policies published in recruitment guides, I'm pretty sure. I certainly don't mean that all groups have their policies out there for the whole world to see, but it's probably not MS private level info for many of them.

I agree that you'd be wise never to count on it since we can all think of examples of chapters that don't follow their own groups' policies, but for many you could know what to expect.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

My group's policy about legacies on the bid list is available pretty openly on the web, and I've seen other groups policies published in recruitment guides, I'm pretty sure. I certainly don't mean that all groups have their policies out there for the whole world to see, but it's probably not MS private level info for many of them.

I agree that you'd be wise never to count on it since we can all think of examples of chapters that don't follow their own groups' policies, but for many you could know what to expect.

As is my group's policy. It took me about 15 seconds to find a description of it, and a link to the actual policy. The description was written directly to the legacy. Clearly then, not MS.

My hometown, in Florida, is a MAJOR feeder to Auburn. Being OOS wasn't a liability for women in my town as it would be for a young woman from Connecticut or Idaho. Apparently it's gotten even more popular in light of the fact that Bright Futures and OneFlorida has made UF less of a shoo-in the way it used to be. It's probably the same for the Atlanta suburbs, among other places.

[Titchou]

First of all, being from out of state makes NO DIFFERENCE at Auburn or Alabama or most anywhere else in the SEC. Alabama had about an even split last year with in and out of state PNMs. Auburn has so many GA and FL students that it would be impossible to purposely keep the chapters skewed to in state members.

Second of all, putting legacies on the first bid list is not private membership selection information. The software has a place to mark the legacies so it runs them first - at least ICS does. And it's the main software PHs are using these days.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Second of all, putting legacies on the first bid list is not private membership selection information. The software has a place to mark the legacies so it runs them first - at least ICS does. And it's the main software PHs are using these days.

While I realize many groups choose to use this feature, they are not obligated to do so, i.e. the CPH can not say "your legacies MUST be on the top of your bid list". Further, it is possible to have more legacies attending prefs than quota, in which case, a legacy could go receive a bid from a chapter other than her legacy chapter.

A PNM (or her mother, as the one I quoted) should never go into pref thinking she is a "sure thing" just because she is returning to her legacy chapter.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by Titchou

First of all, being from out of state makes NO DIFFERENCE at Auburn or Alabama or most anywhere else in the SEC. Alabama had about an even split last year with in and out of state PNMs. Auburn has so many GA and FL students that it would be impossible to purposely keep the chapters skewed to in state members.

Second of all, putting legacies on the first bid list is not private membership selection information. The software has a place to mark the legacies so it runs them first - at least ICS does. And it's the main software PHs are using these days.

I think that being OOS may or may not make a difference on a case by case basis. While most chapters may have eliminated attaching a stigma to OOS PNMs, it is still hugely advantageous to have someone who knows you pulling for you in the chapter. So, in that respect, an individual PNM from OOS may have a tougher time. (In other words, she may not be cut because she is OOS, but just because no one knows her personally and there are other PNMs who they know better.)

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I think that being OOS may or may not make a difference on a case by case basis. While most chapters may have eliminated attaching a stigma to OOS PNMs, it is still hugely advantageous to have someone who knows you pulling for you in the chapter. So, in that respect, an individual PNM from OOS may have a tougher time. (In other words, she may not be cut because she is OOS, but just because no one knows her personally and there are other PNMs who they know better.)

Well, that's a differant scenario not based totally on being OOS...

[AUmom2]

Being from out of state MAY make a difference at Auburn. There are some sororities that, all else being equal, would take a young lady from Alabama first.

[AUmom2012]

I have to disagree with the out of state info, having attended Auburn myself, even way back in the day, rushees from Montgomery, B'ham, Mobile and Huntsville faired way better than us Georgia ones. This is mainly because there were a lot more sisters in the sororities from that particular city. I can name on one hand girls from where I'm from that are active sisters. Big difference. But, it is what it is, everyone will be happy in their chapters, especially when they take the time to get to know them better this semester.

And honestly, is there any private information anymore? I said it, its out there to be found, and the girls all know it from their mommies or sisters or aunts. Now, how they do their bid selection, that is private, top secret info. Or supposed to be!

[Titchou]

It will be interesting to see the breakdown.