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03-14-2012, 09:46 PM
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I think this thread went way off topic & became a train wreck 2 pages ago.
Can't you guys go back to posting ugly & stupid GLO para again?
That was fun....
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03-14-2012, 10:02 PM
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So, now the issue is gender inequality and sorority life? *brain fart* I thought the issue was supposed to be mimicking and mocking Black folkseseseses. LOL.
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The tone of the song seems inappropriate for ANY sorority to use...black, white, brown or fuchsia.
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I see it as an adoption of popular culture just as they would use "Wizard of Oz" theme or "Sex and the City" or a "How I Met Your Mother" theme. It's just what's hot in the streets right now to say "____ is my home boy" or whatever the kids are liking right now. The so called "hip hop" culture is what many young people are into and PNMs and others see these references and think it's "super cute" as we'd say down here.
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If that's the case, then let's turn it around. When is the last time you saw a BGLO or MCGLO having a shirt or party or whatever themed around How I Met Your Mother?
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03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
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For all of this throwing around of the Wizard of Oz in this thread, I would love for someone to tell me the last time it was used as a theme on a college campus. It's only older than my mom. (And I am no spring chicken, sadly.)
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Doesnt Phi MU frequently do the who "theres no place like home" with their letters for O and M during rush/bid day?
I thought of that too ElieM, thats what i was getting at with the whole what if it were all in pink question.
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03-14-2012, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PiAlphaGammaFM
Doesnt Phi MU frequently do the who "theres no place like home" with their letters for O and M during rush/bid day?
I thought of that too ElieM, thats what i was getting at with the whole what if it were all in pink question.
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I agree; it's most likely just a bad color choice. I really don't think anyone was like "hey, Sir Fidel would look great in blackface". However, this is the type of thing that not-Greeks love to latch onto...I could just picture it landing on some liberal blog where not just my org, but all Greeks, are torn to shreds over it.
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03-14-2012, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DZsis&mom
I think this thread went way off topic & became a train wreck 2 pages ago.
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This is hardly a train wreck.
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Originally Posted by DZsis&mom
Can't you...go back to posting ugly & stupid GLO para again?
That was fun....
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DeltaBetaBaby and Mevara posted ugly and stupid 'nalia. We are discussing what they posted. Feel free to post your own 'nalia if you don't like the discourse.
Was it fun? I guess it's all relative. I consider this to be more fun.
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I agree; it's most likely just a bad color choice. I really don't think anyone was like "hey, Sir Fidel would look great in blackface". However, this is the type of thing that not-Greeks love to latch onto...I could just picture it landing on some liberal blog where not just my org, but all Greeks, are torn to shreds over it.
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Are you being sarcastic or backpedaling?
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03-14-2012, 11:07 PM
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Are you being sarcastic or backpedaling?
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I didn't mean to do either. I'm commenting on intent, not effect. I don't think someone at Phi Mu was like "let's put it in black to be extra offensive!" Never attribute to malice, and all that...
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03-14-2012, 11:13 PM
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I didn't mean to do either. I'm saying that I don't think someone at Phi Mu was like "let's put it in black to be extra offensive!" Never attribute to malice, and all that...
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Well, the potential outcome is the same regardless of intent. Some people may think Sir Fidel looks "blacker" to match the "homeboy". That is how you presented it even after a couple of us did not see the offense.
It does seem like your tone has changed. Has it changed because they have agreed to take this off of their official collection? If so, that is why I initially asked if it was a good idea for you to share this with GC when you have already notified the NHQ.
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03-14-2012, 11:30 PM
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Well, the potential outcome is the same regardless of intent. Some people may think Sir Fidel looks "blacker" to match the "homeboy". That is how you presented it even after a couple of us did not see the offense.
It does seem like your tone has changed. Has it changed because they have agreed to take this off of their official collection? If so, that is why I initially asked if it was a good idea for you to share this with GC when you have already notified the NHQ.
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No, I think it was offensive. I am glad they took it down. I think that it was a result of ignorance, not malice, but I think such ignorance is still inexcusable. I also think that maybe, just maybe, the women running my organization would have learned something from a certain Cosby-related PR nightmare just a few months ago. My goal is not to shame my organization by talking about it here, but I also don't feel the need to shield it, either.
ETA: Then again, the person at HQ responsible for approving para also approved a Lily Print with a misspelled motto, and as far as I can tell from the FB page, that is, like, a billion times worse!
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03-15-2012, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL
*Retiring from hiatus for two seconds*
I didn't see the Sir Fidel shirt as a an adoption of a minority culture by elitist white groups. All of black culture is not ruined by a single hip hop reference on a Phi Mu t-shirt. As a "race" we have far bigger concerns.
I see it as an adoption of popular culture just as they would use "Wizard of Oz" theme or "Sex and the City" or a "How I Met Your Mother" theme. It's just what's hot in the streets right now to say "____ is my home boy" or whatever the kids are liking right now. The so called "hip hop" culture is what many young people are into and PNMs and others see these references and think it's "super cute" as we'd say down here.
It's not like they'd one day print a shirt saying "This N**** right here is my home girl" or something. At least not anyone with common sense.
Would I buy that shirt? No, but that's because it's ugly and we have way cuter things with more pink on it, not because I find it racist.
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What year are we in cause those shirts have not been the business for a while now. That alone would have made me want to have the shirt pulled; horrible execution aside.
Here's a pic from when they were "cool".
Ashton + Trucker Hat = PUNkD!
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03-15-2012, 12:26 AM
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The Gamma Phi Beta Christopher Radko ornament can be seen here --
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...-beta-ornament
The pink crescent moon is fine but the greek letters are hideous!! First of all, they are burgundy - not our color - and the PHI is huge compared to the Gamma and Beta....ugh!
I still bought one though  but when I hang it on my Christmas tree it is on the back side or near the bottom!
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03-15-2012, 12:35 AM
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I think the Vineyard Vines KD print looks like wallpaper at a grandmother's house. The belt is really special, but it wouldn't show.
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03-15-2012, 01:01 AM
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I think the Vineyard Vines KD print looks like wallpaper at a grandmother's house. The belt is really special, but it wouldn't show.

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Why is it in pink considering that pink isn't a color associated with Kappa Delta? I also think that a nautilus shell would have been far superior to the teddy bear on the Kappa Delta items, is he wearing a red bow tie? Furthermore, Alpha Phi is also in pink (not one of their colors either) and has a teddy bear as well, whereas a nice ivy leaf would look much better than Winnie the Pooh's inbred cousin, Whino the Boo. I get that Vineyard Vines uses pastels, but gray is at least closer to silver.
Theta has a nice looking print but it is purple, wtf? Pi Phi doesn't have a carnation, let alone a wine colored one, it kind of looks like a cotton boll to me. You can see them all here, and they are Greek Licensed Products. http://www.vineyardvines.com/categor...2550_____13055
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03-15-2012, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by amIblue?
For all of this throwing around of the Wizard of Oz in this thread, I would love for someone to tell me the last time it was used as a theme on a college campus. It's only older than my mom. (And I am no spring chicken, sadly.)
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Someone else mentioned Phi Mu has... and my rush/bid day last semester was Wizard of Oz themed as well. It might be older than your mom, but it's also a classic.
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03-15-2012, 05:51 AM
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Sash? Do people, even VV preppy people, wear sashes any more? It's a little Jane Austen, even for your most pearls and polos girl.
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03-15-2012, 08:40 AM
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Sash? Do people, even VV preppy people, wear sashes any more? It's a little Jane Austen, even for your most pearls and polos girl.
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And $65.....Are they SERIOUS???? LOL
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