Obama orders end to the practice of denying same-sex partners hospital visits

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Not acredited by the ABA, but a higher authority.

Tiers? Oh we're above Tier I, we're Tier H for Holy.

deepimpact, I don't know where you go to school, I am sure it is accredited, I'm just making a funny for Mr. Cat.

And Mr. Cat was amused.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I wasn't talking about We as the entire U.S. but We as in the people who were arguing with deepimpact which didn't include you at the time.

Good and I hope you all aren't "arguing" with deepimpact.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And Mr. Cat was amused.

Okay, I'm really having a problem with a law student using blue laws as evidence. Really having a problem with that.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

It came up when KSUviolet asked me why I was against gay marriage. I simply said that for me personally my feelings about that are based on religion. Then others started getting into the debates about church and state and the founding fathers, etc. I never elaborated beyond that.

I understand what you mean, but some people got a little combative when my response to her question was pretty bland. I intentionally didn't elaborate for that very reason.

I find it interesting that everytime I ask why someone is opposed to gay marriage, the answer almost always (like 99% of the time) involves religion.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I find it interesting that everytime I ask why someone is opposed to gay marriage, the answer almost always (like 99% of the time) involves religion.

Completely agree.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Good and I hope you all aren't "arguing" with deepimpact.

Ehh...I like arguments. I don't think that implies anything bad. Do you like debating better?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Ehh...I like arguments. I don't think that implies anything bad. Do you like debating better?

This is more of a discussion or debate than an argument.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is more of a discussion or debate than an argument.

I naturally use argument for this type of discussion in daily life....I guess that's an idiosyncrasy of mine.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Has anyone in this thread gotten all hot for the founding fathers?

In my original post I was talking about people not in this thread, I live in Idaho, trust that we have religious/government fervent (and anti-government) people I coexist with every day. We have some pretty active groups on campus who fit that description, and want nothing to change from the 1770s, and see it as the only way and it needs to stay intact.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And Mr. Cat was amused.

I've been seeing a Sinfonian in letters regularly on campus. I know there's an active chapter as well as SAI, but this one dude is rocking a great sweatshirt, in appropriate colors even. I wanted to yell "I see you Mystic Cat! SINFONIAAAAAAAAA" but I should probably not do that from my car and say hello in the coffee shop instead.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is more of a discussion or debate than an argument.

See, I guess since I'm a lawyer, "argument" has a whole different connotation. I have arguments in court all the time.

And yeah about the blue laws.

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I've been seeing a Sinfonian in letters regularly on campus. I know there's an active chapter as well as SAI, but this one dude is rocking a great sweatshirt, in appropriate colors even. I wanted to yell "I see you Mystic Cat! SINFONIAAAAAAAAA" but I should probably not do that from my car and say hello in the coffee shop instead.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

See, I guess since I'm a lawyer, "argument" has a whole different connotation. I have arguments in court all the time.

And yeah about the blue laws.

In my field where we casually discuss topics that people consider controversial and terrifying everyday:

You "make an (the) argument (for, that, etc.)," "so-and-so argues that..." or "engage in the argument that..." But, that's completely different than saying you are arguing with someone or having an argument. Different tone and context.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You "make an argument," "so-and-so argues that..." or even "engage in the argument that..." But, that's completely different than saying you are arguing with someone or having an argument. Different tone and context.

Oh, I get that. I'm just saying that in the context of my field, "argument" and "arguing" aren't necessarily that different from "discussion" and "discussing," except that an argument should be more formal and better thought through. I "have" arguments all the time, though I argue "against" someone, not "with" them.

Oh, the turns a thread can take.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

In my field where we casually discuss topics that people consider controversial and terrifying everyday:

You "make an (the) argument (for, that, etc.)," "so-and-so argues that..." or "engage in the argument that..." But, that's completely different than saying you are arguing with someone or having an argument. Different tone and context.

Where I come from argument doesn't really have that much of a different tone or context. I think for you it means what a "fight" means for me...but I am a little bit country.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I "have" arguments all the time, though I argue "against" someone, not "with" them.

Oh, the turns a thread can take.

This is a message board and people take typed words at face value.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Seriously, deepimpact2, do we need to have a discussion about these laws? I know that your legal education has taught you better than this.

I'm not following the point you're making. The point is that the laws exist. I made those statement in reference to the fact that someone was saying that no one is making laws concerning these things.

Oh and I'm not sure those laws really qualify as "blue laws."