Study: You may be more racist than you think - Page 11

DrPhil · #**151** 01-14-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

I get what you're saying (or pick up what you're puttin' down, or smell what you're steppin' in).

Yuck?

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Love and I are on different sides of the same coin, really. She's saying she's offended by people referring to the color of her skin, even in less charged terms like "frosted flake" or whatever, and I'm saying a white person has no right to be offended by someone using non-charged words to describe them if they're going to turn around and use non-charged words to describe another group. Or, simply, don't dish it out if you can't take it.

I'm not sure where this is coming from. Are you saying that whites, in general, dish it or is this a hypothetical?

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

I guess it all boils down to the connotation of the word, positive v. non-vulgar but still negative v. negative and vulgar v. downright bigoted. Not to mention the context of the word. "I don't like black people" is certainly different than "that black lady ran out in front of a car!"

There isn't a difference between those statements if they both objectify based on group membership. That would be based on the outcome of the statements and not the (difficult to prove) intent.

As for the bigotry stuff, racism doesn't require bigotry but prejudice does to some extent. So insisting that racism be defined as "Archie Bunkerisms" really does a disservice to an understanding of the construct. It's like believing that stars only exist at night because we can't see them during the day.

agzg · #**152** 01-14-2009, 06:59 PM

Hey - my life seems like it's full of dog doo, since I clean it up 3x a day.

I'm not saying that just whites dish it. It's human nature to dish it, I think.

I was trying to think of a way to say the second statement there in a way as describing the lady, but my brain farted.

Regardless, I get what you're saying.

LΩVE · #**153** 01-14-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Should I? No.

Will I? In my own way.

As KSig RC stated, you pick up on the less substantive points and nitpick to create a strawman argument for yourself. Now you've become sidetracked by "layperson," "experience," and "expertise."

Personal experience is not the end-all and be-all for most things. Would you go to a doctor whose only knowledge of, and experience with, sickness is that she had a cold or was diagnosed with cancer before? Doctors not only have personal experiences but they have worked with others who have personal experiences. This hands-on knowledge is matched with reading and research that allow them to engage on theoretical and substantive levels with other doctors and reach out to laypersons.

The End. Seriously.

I did not say it was the end all. I said it was valid and shouldn't be dismissed.

If it's the end then PLEASE f-o.

DrPhil · #**154** 01-14-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

As KSig RC stated, you pick up on the less substantive points and nitpick to create a strawman argument for yourself. Now you've become sidetracked by "layperson," "experience," and "expertise."

The End. Seriously.

Yep.

KSig RC · #**155** 01-14-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LΩVE

If it's the end then PLEASE f-o.

See, it's hard to cede you any sort of high ground when you finish with "PLEASE fuck off." I get that you don't want to take anyone's shit or whatever - trust me, we get it. But there's a difference between having a spine and telling someone to fuck off, you know?

DrPhil · #**156** 01-14-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

See, it's hard to cede you any sort of high ground when you finish with "PLEASE fuck off." I get that you don't want to take anyone's shit or whatever - trust me, we get it. But there's a difference between having a spine and telling someone to fuck off, you know?

The wonderful thing is that not everyone is so easily condescended and dismissed as that poster is.

She protests so much because she has to.

LΩVE · #**157** 01-14-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

See, it's hard to cede you any sort of high ground when you finish with "PLEASE fuck off." I get that you don't want to take anyone's shit or whatever - trust me, we get it. But there's a difference between having a spine and telling someone to fuck off, you know?

Here's the story: I repeatedly get told to suck and up and behave myself, but as I've stated before, I'm not going to take attitude.

He ends all posts to me with some silly-snide remark about how wasteful it is to respond and then KEEPS DOING IT. At this point, I'm out of patience. If it's such a yawn waste of time then quit responding...I fail to understand the appeal in baiting.

DrPhil · #**158** 01-14-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LΩVE

Here's the story: I repeatedly get told to suck and up and behave myself, but as I've stated before, I'm not going to take attitude.

She ends all posts to me with some silly-snide remark about how wasteful it is to respond and then KEEPS DOING IT. At this point, I'm out of patience. If it's such a yawn waste of time then quit responding...I fail to understand the appeal in baiting.

Long story short: Shut up, idiot.

ETA: You have taken your interpretation of my posts, made it about you and only you, and run with it. You are paranoid and have filled your brain beyond its capacity.

LΩVE · #**159** 01-14-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Long story short: Shut up, idiot.

ETA: You have taken your interpretation of my posts, made it about you and only you, and run with it. You are paranoid and have filled your brain beyond its capacity.