gasoline prices

[nikki1920]

mccallan, Im sure you weren't referencing me. My point is he is acting as if OPEC is the ONLY place we can get oil from. If we have all these places at home where we can get it from, then why is gas so high? Rhetorically (sp?) speaking, of course. I place some of the blame on Bush because he is so closely tied with Big Oil. And I am hardly ignorant nor uninformed. I am going by what my wallet says.

[nate2512]

Saw today where they are actually going to attempt to sue OPEC, really, how dumb are our elected officials?

[TexasWSP]

Originally Posted by nikki1920

mccallan, Im sure you weren't referencing me. My point is he is acting as if OPEC is the ONLY place we can get oil from. If we have all these places at home where we can get it from, then why is gas so high? Rhetorically (sp?) speaking, of course. I place some of the blame on Bush because he is so closely tied with Big Oil. And I am hardly ignorant nor uninformed. I am going by what my wallet says.

I posted a couple thoughts on why gas is so high on the last page.

Sorry I was kind of mean. I am in the oil and gas business and it just irritates me how uninformed people are. To be completely honest......most people don't have a clue.

OPEC is relied upon because of the fact that there are so many places you can drill for oil in this country that aren't being utilized because of environmental activism. Florida coast, California coast, and Alaska are among a few. If people don't stop being pussies about putting drilling rigs in the ocean, among other places, this country is going to be in serious trouble in 10-15 years.......it is a reality....and it frustrates the hell out of people in my profession.....especially when we are the ones that are getting shit on by everyone because of gas prices. People don't have a clue. These places I've mentioned should have been explored and opened up a decade ago but people bitched and moaned about it so much it never happened......now we're in this situation and guess who they bitch to now......the oil companies. It's ridiculous.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by TexasWSP

I posted a couple thoughts on why gas is so high on the last page.

Sorry I was kind of mean. I am in the oil and gas business and it just irritates me how uninformed people are. To be completely honest......most people don't have a clue.

OPEC is relied upon because of the fact that there are so many places you can drill for oil in this country that aren't being utilized because of environmental activism. Florida coast, California coast, and Alaska are among a few. If people don't stop being pussies about putting drilling rigs in the ocean, among other places, this country is going to be in serious trouble in 10-15 years.......it is a reality....and it frustrates the hell out of people in my profession.....especially when we are the ones that are getting shit on by everyone because of gas prices. People don't have a clue. These places I've mentioned should have been explored and opened up a decade ago but people bitched and moaned about it so much it never happened......now we're in this situation and guess who they bitch to now......the oil companies. It's ridiculous.

First off, chill out.

Secondly, I'm sure there are really good reasons why drilling hasn't begun in those places you mentioned otherwise I'm sure they would have done it long ago.

[DeltAlum]

Major oil company CEO's testified before a Senate committee today.

The senators did not treat them very kindly.

There is a thread in the News and Politics forum.

[ree-Xi]

Filled up on Monday at 3.91. Today it is 4.05. Absolutely ridiculous.

[TexasWSP]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

First off, chill out.

Secondly, I'm sure there are really good reasons why drilling hasn't begun in those places you mentioned otherwise I'm sure they would have done it long ago.

Yeah...I'm chilled. Haha.

Secondly, I'd really love to hear these really good reasons why we haven't been openly exploring the millions upon millions of unproven reserves in the places I mentioned. The reason why is exactly what I stated. Democrats and tree hugging liberals have fought coastal drilling for a long time now. It's all about environmentalism.

May 26, 2001
By Tamara Lytle
Orlando Sentinel, Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON -- U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson and other Democrats will wage war against a White House compromise that would allow drilling off Florida's shores but move it farther from the state's beaches......

"It looks like they're hellbent they're going to drill off of Florida," Nelson said. "We've got a fight on our hands.".....

"We should not drill for oil one mile off Florida's coast, and we should not drill 100 miles off the coast. The plan will hurt our environment and could potentially devastate Florida's tourism industry."

July 24, 2006

Public Citizen to Congress: Don’t Allow New Coastal Drilling

Expanding Drilling Will Not Lower Prices; Reducing Demand, Strengthening Regulation of Oil Companies Will

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Opening environmentally sensitive areas to oil and natural gas drilling won’t ease energy prices or reduce oil imports and should be rejected by the Senate when it votes this week, Public Citizen said today.

Judge bars new coastal oil drillings A federal government plan to extend offshore leases is put on hold pending a wider environmental study that could take years

By Kenneth R. Weiss
Los Angeles Times
August 13, 2005

A federal judge effectively blocked new oil drilling off the California coast, ordering federal officials not to allow exploratory wells or other activity until they conduct a more extensive study of the environmental risks — a process that could take years.

Bush Reverses View Of California Offshore Oil Ban
By J.R. Pegg

WASHINGTON, DC, April 1, 2003 (ENS) - The Bush administration said Monday it will not appeal a court decision that upheld California's right to ban oil and gas exploration in federal waters off the central coast of the state....

"Bush administration officials must have decided that they don't have a strong legal case, as I have pointed out all along," said California Senator Barbara Boxer, a Democrat. "I hope that they now also understand how much we Californians care about our coast."

Here is another link concerning the Deep Ocean Drilling legislation
http://feinstein.senate.gov/news-oil-drilling83006.html


Now......this is the kind of attitude that I am more prone to agreeing with:

The St. Petersburg Times

Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas: "I think that you go in every place that you can to find resources." Rep. Tom Tancredo: "You bet. I would agree to exploration off the coasts. I mean, it's -- how fair is it, today, that, Louisiana is producing all the oil that California and other (states) are consuming, and they refuse to allow the exploration of oil off the coasts?
"I'd say, you know, if you won't allow it, you can't use it, the stuff that we're getting from Louisiana... So, yes, you better drill every place you can here."

[nikki1920]

Originally Posted by TexasWSP

I posted a couple thoughts on why gas is so high on the last page.

Sorry I was kind of mean.

Apology accepted.
And thank you for informing the masses. We need more information to counter what the media tells us and what our wallets say.

[christiangirl]

My cousin just told me that premium prices broke $5.00 where she is. I was so that I turned on my laptop after having just turned it off so that I could post that.

[AGDee]

When self serve first started it was cheaper to pump it yourself. Then they had the cash/credit price thing going on. I hadn't seen any stations do that until this past week when they suddenly have a cheaper price for cash or debit. As long as I can do debit, I'll do it that way. It's a pain when you're "filling up" and you have to go in, give them cash, go back out to pump and go back in to get your change. And, as the "pump shock" is setting in, figuring out how much you have to give them is more of a challenge. When they first required paying first, before debit cards, when I was operating on cash only personally, I used to give them a $20.

[FirstAndFinest]

I haven't seen different prices for cash vs credit. Perhaps it's illegal in NJ, as is self-serve?

I was in Brasil last week and the cost of gas - gasoline - there was about the same as it is here, in NJ. (at least that is what we determined, converting from BRL to USD, then from litre to gallon) Their cars are a LOT smaller than ours and many of them run on "alcool" (alcohol) or a gas/alcohol mixture. (according to our driver...)

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by FirstAndFinest

I was in Brasil last week and the cost of gas - gasoline - there was about the same as it is here, in NJ. (at least that is what we determined, converting from BRL to USD, then from litre to gallon) Their cars are a LOT smaller than ours and many of them run on "alcool" (alcohol) or a gas/alcohol mixture. (according to our driver...)

Brazil uses a lot more ethanol than we do here, and many cars are equipped to run on 100% ethanol. They can also make it more effectively from sugar cane, which grows much better on a large scale down there than it does here.

Diesel was $4.40 at the "cheap" place. Thank God we're not doing a lot of traveling this summer, even with the good mpg we get.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

Diesel was $4.40 at the "cheap" place. Thank God we're not doing a lot of traveling this summer, even with the good mpg we get.

The diesel prices are what amaze me. It doesn't matter so much for my wife and I, but my dad's truck runs on diesel (he's in construction/remodeling), so he's had to put a much larger chunk of the money he makes on jobs towards travel costs. It's insane the amount of money he spends in a week on gas.

[Nanners52674]

Theirs a place in my town that has four corners with gas stations on three of them. The other day the prices were like $4.15/gal at shell, $4.10/gal at mobil, and $3.98/gal at the little no name station. The amazing thing there were cars getting gas at the $4.15/gal station i wanted to go up to them and be did you not look across the street why are voluntarily paying .17cents more a gallon!!!!

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by Nanners52674

Theirs a place in my town that has four corners with gas stations on three of them. The other day the prices were like $4.15/gal at shell, $4.10/gal at mobil, and $3.98/gal at the little no name station. The amazing thing there were cars getting gas at the $4.15/gal station i wanted to go up to them and be did you not look across the street why are voluntarily paying .17cents more a gallon!!!!

I've said it before, it doesn't matter what the sign or pump says, there is no guarantee that that is ExxonMobil gas coming out of that ExxonMobil pump. It's all a marketing strategy. Also the no name brand station gets to control their prices based on the delivery price, so they only change their prices when they receive delivery, Marketed gas stations like ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, and such are forced to change their prices as soon as they are told to.