Star Jones leaves The View - Page 10

f8nacn · #**136** 07-06-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

But you called someone "too lesbianistic." So if you're telling other people they should be tolerant of her choices, shouldn't you be tolerant of Rosie's choices?

Personally, both Star and Rosie annoy me, and I wouldn't watch The View unless someone put a gun to my head. I do think, though, as unfair as it might be, things like this happen all the time in the media and showbiz. We just don't always hear about them.

You are right...Yes, WE should all be tolerant of choices that people make, celebrity or noncelebrity - whether we agree with them or not. That doesn't mean that I have to watch her or listen to anything that she says.

kddani · #**137** 07-06-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn

You are right...Yes, WE should all be tolerant of choices that people make, celebrity or noncelebrity - whether we agree with them or not. That doesn't mean that I have to watch her or listen to anything that she says.

What you said wasn't exactly "tolerant". No one said that you had to listen to her or watch her. But your comment was straight up intolerant.

If you're going to be telling people that they shouldn't be discussing Star and making comments about her, then you shouldn't be making comments about Rosie.

What's the difference?

f8nacn · #**138** 07-06-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani

What you said wasn't exactly "tolerant". No one said that you had to listen to her or watch her. But your comment was straight up intolerant.

If you're going to be telling people that they shouldn't be discussing Star and making comments about her, then you shouldn't be making comments about Rosie.

What's the difference?

My last post did not say anything negative about ROSIE! I clearly stated that we should be tolerant of people choices! At the same, I will say this again, that does not mean that I have to LISTEN to or WATCH her...and what was "intolerant" or "negative" about that?

However, I will say this...see how stupid it is to continue to label and judge people...there will always be people who are FOR you and people who are AGAINST you.

valkyrie · #**139** 07-06-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn

...too lesbianistic (made up word) for me...

It's not your "last post," but this sounds pretty damn intolerant to me.

Marie · #**140** 07-06-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

With all this talk about what Star said/didn't say I can't help but say that it seems to me that in the land of non-specifics the term "medical intervention" can be taken so many ways. Personally, the term "medical intervention" sounds to me like she was at the doctor for a checkup and the doctor said "Star, you're obese and you need to lose weight. Let's put you on an exercise and nutritional plan and I'll supervise you." However, she didn't say "medical intervention" and leave it at that for everyone to assume she had gastric bypass. She also said she was dieting and exercising which implies that she was on some sort of medical weight loss plan without surgery....and medical supervision is not uncommon for people trying to lose a large amount of weight without gastric bypass. I think that if she had said "surgical intervention" or something equally as specific that would probably have been a little more helpful and not caused all this hoopla.

This assessment is correct. She did not say that she lost her weight by 'diet and exercise'. She has always said that it was a 'medical intervention', but that she didn't want to be the poster child for 1 particular method. In the past she has shared some parts of her weight loss, like saying that she relied on doctors, she was trying pilates, and she ate well. However, she has opted not to endorse one method over another. It isn't so much that she lied, but she just never spelled it out as gastric bypass, which is what people wanted to hear.

Marie · #**141** 07-06-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani

Obvious to her, perhaps, to her viewers- not so much.

No, think that it was pretty obvious to the viewers. That's the point. Everyone clearly saw and knew that she had surgery, but they wanted her to come right out and specifically say that. When she stated that she wasn't going to endorse any method, the people felt upset and decieved.

OtterXO · #**142** 07-06-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie

No, think that it was pretty obvious to the viewers. That's the point. Everyone clearly saw and knew that she had surgery, but they wanted her to come right out and specifically say that. When she stated that she wasn't going to endorse any method, the people felt upset and decieved.

I agree, I think it was obvious but when she didn't come right out and say it people took what she said and assumed she was telling the whole truth. Sort of like when a friend of mine got her nose done when she was on "vacation". We all knew her nose looked different but she said she had been working out and lost weight so it changed the way her face looked. We all believed her (idiots that we were) even though it seemed like her nose looked different. When we found out we all said we initially suspected a nose job but we trusted our friend to tell us the whole truth so we believed her.

Same as with Star....viewers suspected gastric bypass and expected her to say "i had gastric bypass". Star talks about "medical intervention", diet and exercise and her viewers believed her, thinking Star would tell them the whole truth. So when they found out she hadn't been completely honest they were upset.

Dionysus · #**143** 07-06-2006, 12:15 PM

Thanks for answering my question.

So she had a blinged out wedding (from what I've heard).

And, she didn't tell us how she lost weight, specifically. Which is isn't anyone's business.

I don't see what's the big deal.

Dionysus · #**144** 07-06-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

Sort of like when a friend of mine got her nose done when she was on "vacation". We all knew her nose looked different but she said she had been working out and lost weight so it changed the way her face looked. We all believed her (idiots that we were) even though it seemed like her nose looked different. When we found out we all said we initially suspected a nose job but we trusted our friend to tell us the whole truth so we believed her.

Has your lives been dramatically changed because she was dishonest about her nose job? There's worse things she could've been dishonest about.

OtterXO · #**145** 07-06-2006, 12:23 PM

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Has your lives been dramatically changed because she was dishonest about her nose job? There's worse things she could've been dishonest about.

Um, no. I don't think I indicated that my life changed at all. I was just making a comparison about believing what someone says as being the whole truth.

OtterXO · #**146** 07-06-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus

Thanks for answering my question.

So she had a blinged out wedding (from what I've heard).

And, she didn't tell us how she lost weight, specifically. Which is isn't anyone's business.

I don't see what's the big deal.

I don't watch the View religiously but as I recall, she basically solicited vendors to provide free stuff for her wedding in exchange for having the items on the show (i.e. free advertising for the vendor and free stuff for Ms. Jones). I guess it just left a bad taste in some people's mouths because they felt as though she was blantantly using her celebrity to get free stuff. I think it's a bit tacky, but apparently the View viewers and the ABC/View ppl thought it was a big deal.

f8nacn · #**147** 07-06-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

I don't watch the View religiously but as I recall, she basically solicited vendors to provide free stuff for her wedding in exchange for having the items on the show (i.e. free advertising for the vendor and free stuff for Ms. Jones). I guess it just left a bad taste in some people's mouths because they felt as though she was blantantly using her celebrity to get free stuff. I think it's a bit tacky, but apparently the View viewers and the ABC/View ppl thought it was a big deal.

When the Today Show "Throws a Wedding," does NBC pay for those items that the couple receives or is it FREE?

AlphaFrog · #**148** 07-06-2006, 01:57 PM

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When the Today Show "Throws a Wedding," does NBC pay for those items that the couple receives or is it FREE?

Because there's no way that Star could have afforded a classy wedding without freebies.

The Today Show generally throws weddings for people who's bank accounts don't resemble the budget of a small country.

Dionysus · #**149** 07-06-2006, 02:02 PM

I still don't see what's the big deal. Maybe it is because weddings period don't interest me that much. Get married in a cardboard box...or in a castle. I couldn't care less. Yeah, with her bank account it was unneccessary, but not flat out wrong. She didn't hold a gun up to their heads. It was a personal preference.

33girl · #**150** 07-06-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

The Today Show generally throws weddings for people who's bank accounts don't resemble the budget of a small country.

Not only that, don't the viewers pick everything and the bride & groom have to live with it? I wouldn't care if it was the best money could buy, that would be my idea of hell.