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04-05-2005, 12:13 AM
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I agree.
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04-05-2005, 12:03 PM
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Monet,
who questions your existence?
-Rudey
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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
There is a club on the campus where I work where the children from multi-racial and multi-ethnic families are going to politically "redefine" themselves... Test all the "theories" of the "census application boxes" and be outside the box.
Well, that's cool and should be supported, especially in a place such as the United States.
How well will is go over with the current socio-political climate here, who knows?
However, ladies of the Divine Four is that we are going to have to "remarket", "retool", "revise" and "redesign" how we might attract new members with so many children coming up in here bitchin' and moanin' about our existence and validity...
I have experienced the illogical conclusions made as observed from GC from others in my own city who have made no attempt to know about what we all do in the community...
We may primarily serve the African American community, however there are parts of life that extend beyond race, class and ethnicity...
I find that once the NPHC sororities develop partnerships with corporate organizations--i.e. Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. has a partnership with DaimlerChrysler and Pillsbury, the CEO's, CFO's and VP's start watching what we are doing and blown away by our resourcefulness...
On a college campus that observation is not seen and is actually a retaliation of authority...
What is takes to change that mentality is when we all have those monster events--i.e. Deb Balls, Beautillions, Fundraisers, hey, even Regional Conferences and International Meetings, etc. A few tickets need to be given to the very kids questioning our existence... Then let us see what they say...
I think they will have a completely different view after experiencing the awe and wonder we constantly experience when we go to these things... I know I did when I became a member of my Sorority... I know once hateful folks were blown away after witnessing the Regional Conference Public Meeting...
There needs to be that kind of interaction made between all of us...
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04-05-2005, 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
Monet,
who questions your existence?
-Rudey
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I think you have done your research about us because you want to date one of us...
But sweetheart, I dun tole you I's married now...
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04-05-2005, 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
I think you have done your research about us because you want to date one of us...
But sweetheart, I dun tole you I's married now...
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you have to do research to date an AKA?
wow.....
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04-06-2005, 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
However, ladies of the Divine Four is that we are going to have to "remarket", "retool", "revise" and "redesign" how we might attract new members with so many children coming up in here bitchin' and moanin' about our existence and validity...
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Wow. I didn't know NPHC sororities found their validity being called into question. AKA_Monet- who do you feel questions your existence? Do you feel like others think your sororities serve no purpose in the black community but to "divide" us? That's very sad when I hear that from other black people because even though I'm not NPHC, I see what your groups do on campus and I think it does the exact opposite.
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05-11-2008, 04:56 PM
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Ok, don't kill me for bringing back a 3 year old thread. I was thinking about this topic and since everyone always complains about no one using the search function I thought I'd add in my $0.02 as an IFC "minority."
No one has ever asked me why I joined a "white" fraternity. (Even though TKE never had an anti-discriminatory clause and we have diverse chapters all over... ANNND at FIU, whites are the "minority").
I was never interested in joining a latin fraternity, I always felt at home with my brothers. Although one thing I have noticed is that it is more common to see minorities in IFC fraternities than in NPC sororities. Has anyone else noticed this ?
I'm interested in hearing some responses from more people.
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05-11-2008, 07:17 PM
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(Even though TKE never had an anti-discriminatory clause and we have diverse chapters all over... ANNND at FIU, whites are the "minority").
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We've had another discussion I thought was quite interesting on anti-discrimination clauses.
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ination&page=3
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05-12-2008, 01:49 PM
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(breathesgelatin) ...I was accepted to Morehouse and did not attend for reasons including it being somewhat of a black bourgeoisie machine.
Just my opinion.
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05-12-2008, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
(breathesgelatin) ...I was accepted to Morehouse and did not attend for reasons including it being somewhat of a black bourgeoisie machine.
Just my opinion.
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What's wrong with a black bourgeoisie machine?
It's not for everyone, literally and figuratively.
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05-12-2008, 02:18 PM
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(breathesgelatin) ...I was accepted to Morehouse and did not attend for reasons including it being somewhat of a black bourgeoisie machine.
Just my opinion.
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Hah, well it was interesting because some (not all) of these same mentioned black guys were also like W&L guys insofar as they were... ah... unaware of their class privileges. To clarify, this was a volunteer internship program in which we did community service to needy populations, so we all had all these consciousness raising/privilege awareness activities at the orientation training. So via the discussion we had a really good idea of who thought what by the end.
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05-12-2008, 01:54 PM
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^^^ You're right, and it wasn't for me.
I didn't want to attend a school which was hyper-aware of itself and its legacy.
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05-12-2008, 02:04 PM
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^^^ You're right, and it wasn't for me.
I didn't want to attend a school which was hyper-aware of itself and its legacy.
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Hey, you have to believe your own hype so that others can believe your hype.
But I feel ya.
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05-12-2008, 04:46 PM
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hijack/
I was waiting for someone to post that. LOL.
That fine specimen of a man is a great news story.
But other than being the first white valedictorian, he's the typical Morehouse man. I didn't like the fact that an article said that he "raised the bar." He didn't because he is the typical super-accomplished Morehouse man and isn't the only valedictorian with a 4.0. And of course he isn't the only white man at Morehouse. His being the first white valedictorian is indicative of inclusion on the part of Morehouse and his peers but not indicative of any triumph of whites amidst systemic adversity. Race, gender, and other minority groups' firsts are celebrated because of triumph amidst structural adversity.
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05-12-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
hijack/
I was waiting for someone to post that. LOL.
That fine specimen of a man is a great news story.
But other than being the first white valedictorian, he's the typical Morehouse man. I didn't like the fact that an article said that he "raised the bar." He didn't because he is the typical super-accomplished Morehouse man and isn't the only valedictorian with a 4.0. And of course he isn't the only white man at Morehouse. His being the first white valedictorian is indicative of inclusion on the part of Morehouse and his peers but not indicative of any triumph of whites admist systemic adversity. Race, gender, and other minority groups' firsts are celebrated because of triumph admist structural adversity.
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but they've overcome so much and have had so much disadvantage in this country. he is one of the "good ones." not like the rest.
and i should punch you in the boob for looking at another man.
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05-12-2008, 05:15 PM
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but they've overcome so much and have had so much disadvantage in this country. he is one of the "good ones." not like the rest.
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Yeah, no one would've expected a white man to come out on top.
Not taking anything away from this bright (and fine) young man and how hard he worked, of course.
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and i should punch you in the boob for looking at another man.
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I think I'm insulted right now but I still wuv u.
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