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01-09-2006, 06:31 PM
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My problem is with all y'all who are saying that people can't lead Christian lives if a married couple doesn't worship God in the exact same way. I think it is entirely possible for people to follow God's instructions for a relationship while worshipping in two variant forms. I've seen it done, a lot. You're saying you don't think I can do what I want to do with my life. I don't think that's true.
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Very true, its like saying if you're a democrat you're only going to be happy with a democrat and anyone who tries to date outside their political party will be doomed from day one. Sorry but no one couple will fall insync 100% in every aspect of their values/beliefs/etc.
As a side note, this has been quite an entertaining thread. While Ive had thoughts to share, KSig RC and GP have pretty much covered where I stand on this topic.
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01-09-2006, 07:11 PM
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I'm not trying to attack you specifically, or anyone else in this thread. If you really feel it is that important that your future spouse be your particular flavor of Christianity, then fine, do that. I'm not planning on marrying any of the posters in this thread so it doesn't affect me.
My problem is with all y'all who are saying that people can't lead Christian lives if a married couple doesn't worship God in the exact same way. I think it is entirely possible for people to follow God's instructions for a relationship while worshipping in two variant forms. I've seen it done, a lot. You're saying you don't think I can do what I want to do with my life. I don't think that's true.
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GP, people that feel this way are speaking in terms of THEIR PERSONAL relationship (because the question was asked on a personal level, not in general). I don't recall seeing anyone post a blanket statement of "people who marry of different denominations/religions are doomed to divorce court".
If two people of different faiths make it work - YEAH! Some of us just prefer to have a spouse that shares the same faith/denomination - its really no different that those who have posted that they prefer a spouse with no religious inclination. By using the same that same thought process, does that automatically mean that those who do (are religious) won't have a healthy marriage? Of course not.
....and maybe I've been in the dark, but what exactly is "jews for jesus"?
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01-09-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
My problem is with all y'all who are saying that people can't lead Christian lives if a married couple doesn't worship God in the exact same way. I think it is entirely possible for people to follow God's instructions for a relationship while worshipping in two variant forms. I've seen it done, a lot. You're saying you don't think I can do what I want to do with my life. I don't think that's true.
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You see, this goes to my original question to you. Who said this? Mind you, I don't read every post carefully, so there absolutely can be a post out there that speaks to this. I just haven't seen it. Every post that I have read has been very personal, stating what each individual wants to do for THEMSELVES. I feel like this is a very personal issue to you based on comments/thoughts/opinions that you may have been receiving from people in your own life based on your relationship. If that's the case, then I understand your frustration, but that doesn't mean that the same sentiment is being expressed here. It's like you feel personally attacked b/c others feel that what is best for you is not best for them (and your inter-faith relationship is indeed BEST for YOU - no one here is questioning or doubting that).
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01-09-2006, 07:18 PM
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....and maybe I've been in the dark, but what exactly is "jews for jesus"?
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It's pretty much what it says it is. It's people who claim they're Jewish yet believe Jesus is the messiah. If you believe Jesus is the messiah, you're a Christian and not a Jew.
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01-09-2006, 07:26 PM
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It's pretty much what it says it is. It's people who claim they're Jewish yet believe Jesus is the messiah. If you believe Jesus is the messiah, you're a Christian/Catholic and not a Jew.
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Ok, now I see the issue. Very interesting. Thanks!
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01-09-2006, 07:29 PM
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....and maybe I've been in the dark, but what exactly is "jews for jesus"?
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It is the attempt by the American Christian Right to single out the remaining Jews and convert them.
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01-09-2006, 07:33 PM
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It is the attempt by the American Christian Right to single out the remaining Jews and convert them.
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There is nothing wrong with witnessing to others - even people of different religions but that's another thread.
I initially thought that "Jews for Jesus" for people who are former jews that have converted to Christianity (in the sense that they now claim to be Christian). I didn't realize that they are people who still say they are Jewish, but yet believe that Jesus is the messiah. That doesn't make sense to me, but I need to read up on them to fully understand.
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01-10-2006, 12:04 AM
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There is nothing wrong with witnessing to others - even people of different religions but that's another thread.
I initially thought that "Jews for Jesus" for people who are former jews that have converted to Christianity (in the sense that they now claim to be Christian). I didn't realize that they are people who still say they are Jewish, but yet believe that Jesus is the messiah. That doesn't make sense to me, but I need to read up on them to fully understand.
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Since I brought it up, the people whom I know to be involved with either Jews for Jesus or call themselves Messianic Jews are people who were born and raised Jewish, and had a conversion to Christianity in their adult life. Having never been to their website, I'm not sure of further details, which is why I was asking some questions.
And you're right - that's a different thread!
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01-10-2006, 12:33 AM
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My sister converted to Catholicism from Lutheranism to marry her husband because it was important to him they live as a Catholic family. While my dad wasn't overly enthusiastic about her decision, he respected it and she was happy with her choice. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for her as our religion was a very important aspect of our lives growing up.
I never had to worry about dating someone outside my religion because 1. I didn't date much and 2. my husband is the same denomination of Lutheran as I. While I think it has definitely helped our relationship in the fact we have similar values and beliefs from having been taught the same things, I don't think I would have not dated someone outside my religion as long as they respected my beliefs.
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01-10-2006, 10:10 AM
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Although I'm already married...I definitely would have dated someone outside of my religion. Issues with my church at home kind of left me as a religious "free agent" until college. While I was baptized Catholic, my wife is Protestant, and we attend (and were married in) an Episcopal church.
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01-10-2006, 11:46 AM
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I know many couples of different religions who have successful marriages. These include Jewish & Catholic, Greek Orthodox & Catholic, Jewish & Hindu, Lutheran & Catholic, and Catholic & Episcopalian. I think that if you have similar goals, morals and values and are willing to make the effort, an interfaith relationship can succeed.
In my personal life I have dated men of various religions. I had a few men tell me that they couldn't get serious about me because of our religious differences. I am Catholic and am engaged to a Catholic man so it isn't an issue.
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01-10-2006, 11:55 AM
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I wouldn't have a problem with it. My father is Muslim and when he met my mother, she was Jewish. So I guess with my background, it wouldn't bother me.
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01-10-2006, 12:01 PM
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I wouldn't have a problem with it. My father is Muslim and when he met my mother, she was Jewish. So I guess with my background, it wouldn't bother me.
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What is she now? It sounds like they're no longer married outside their religion.
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01-10-2006, 01:47 PM
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She's deceased now. She did eventually convert to Islam. They got along when she was still Jewish, though.
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01-11-2006, 03:48 AM
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I only date white girls.
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Why is that? I have a latin thing going on right now myself.
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