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06-20-2002, 02:54 AM
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Neicy, if blacks cannot be racist, what would you call Rev Farrakahn?
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Worthless, but that's just my opinion.
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06-20-2002, 05:25 AM
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Neicy, if blacks cannot be racist, what would you call Rev Farrakahn?
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An angry black man.
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06-20-2002, 09:47 AM
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Okay, so this isn't quite on topic...but the title of the thread is driving me crazy.
Prejudism is NOT a word. Prejudice IS.
*steps off grammar police soapbox*
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06-20-2002, 09:50 AM
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Neicy, if blacks cannot be racist, what would you call Rev Farrakahn?
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Someone more familiar with the N.O.I. please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe about 2 or 3 years ago, Farrakan publicly stated that he no longer believes that all non-whites are the "devil", but that he has indeed had a "change of heart" (just like Malcolm X did after his pilgrimage to Mecca) and is no longer affiliated with the N.O.I.
Just an FYI....................................
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06-20-2002, 02:20 PM
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I agree with Honeykiss. He did renege on his original beliefs but to go back
If racism is discriminating and discrimination is
discrimination
n 1: unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice
then please tell me how he used to treat whites unfair.
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06-20-2002, 03:00 PM
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I'm actually more concerned with his anti-semantic beliefs as those were MUCH more strongly spoken.
How about the Black Panthers? Aren't they as much anti-white as they are pro-black?
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06-20-2002, 03:15 PM
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I'm actually more concerned with his anti-semantic beliefs as those were MUCH more strongly spoken.
How about the Black Panthers? Aren't they as much anti-white as they are pro-black?
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The Black Panthers were never anti-white. The were about eradicating the injustices within black communities.
The BP's never beat whites sensely, lynched someone because they spoke to a white woman, or tied a white up to the back of a truck and dragged him to death. I'll post some more info on them in a sec.
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Go to www.blackpanther.org NO WHERE on the site will it say anything like 'I hate whites" or anything like that. I can't say the same for orgs like the NAAWP
Here is what is called their Ten Point Program:
1. We want freedom. We want the power to determine the destinyof our black community
2. We want full employment of our people.
3. We want an end to the robberyof the Capitalist of our black comunity
4. We want decent housing, fit for the shelter of human beings.
5. We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society.
We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in present day society.
6. We want all black men to be exempt from military service.
7. We want an immediate end to Police Brutality and Murder of black people.
8. We want freedom for all black men held in federal, state, county, and city prisons and jails.
9. We all black people when brought to trial to be tried by a jury of their peer group or people from
their black communities, as defined by the Constitution of The United States.
10. We want land, bread , housing, education, clothing, justice and peace. And as our major
political objective, a United Nations supervised pledicite to be held throughout the black colony
in which only black colonial subjects will be allowed to participate, for the purpose of determining
the will of black people as to their national destiny.
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06-20-2002, 05:52 PM
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Today I attended a conference. The room was evenly divided on bureaucratic stuff. Not that it was unimportant, but it took time away from what was important, i.e. finding a solution. It kind of reminded me of this thread. Which makes me curious, does anyone have any solutions to this issue of prejudice, racism, bigotry, intolerance, and fear? I mean real practical things that we can do to improve this world.
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06-20-2002, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Cream
Today I attended a conference. The room was evenly divided on bureaucratic stuff. Not that it was unimportant, but it took time away from what was important, i.e. finding a solution. It kind of reminded me of this thread. Which makes me curious, does anyone have any solutions to this issue of prejudice, racism, bigotry, intolerance, and fear? I mean real practical things that we can do to improve this world.
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Cream,
Honestly like someone has said earlier, if WE (as people) can't even come to terms as to what is what (in regards to how YOU see racism vs. I see racism), then I can't really answer that question.
Obviously, 30 years of having NOT conversations like this, and just putting on a smile and saying "we are all equal" hasn't worked .
I think one solution is for people to "step outside the box" and just ask questions. For example, (and this is JUST an example) ktsnake asked a question about Black Panthers and I gave him an answer that hopefully will clear up the misconception. Not to say that he will agree with what the BP is all about (I don't necessarily agree with it either - the purpose of asking questions is to gain knowledge, not to agree), but at least now he knows the truth and maybe it will open him up to ask question other things that go on.
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06-20-2002, 06:23 PM
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the NAAWP is NOT a real organization!!! just because you are an organized group with a website does NOT mean you are legit!!! most white people have never heard of them.
i'm glad someone else noticed that prejudism is not a real word. it was driving me crazy
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06-20-2002, 06:32 PM
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And God Created Earth! He created Man in the Name of Adam!
Well then he created Eve! Then they ate a damn Apple!
They put on closthes! BOO!
The World Prospered and became Idolitrist!
A Tower was built to reach the Heavens and God!
God was Pissed so destroyed the Tower and turned the Tribes into a differnet group of people (Clans) who spake differnet Languages and were of Differnet Colors! None could understand each other so went their seperate ways to find a life!
Ok if you dont go for that story a how about Monkeys>???
neicey, while I feel you have a valid idea, do not , place us all in the same catagory as you sometimes seem to be doing! We do not hate yyoouu but try to understand what you go on aobut! You fire at everyone on this site no matter who, Black, Red, Yellow, or white!
Rest your self!
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06-20-2002, 06:37 PM
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the NAAWP is NOT a real organization!!! just because you are an organized group with a website does NOT mean you are legit!!! most white people have never heard of them.
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What makes an organization "LEGIT", by your standards?
The NAAWP unfortunately is a group that has actual, educated, everyday people in it who are passionate about their cause. Anyway, i was just using it to compare website rhetoric and nothing more. If you'd like, I'll replace it with the KKK's website, something that we all have heard of.
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06-20-2002, 06:56 PM
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I was asking a sincere question.
I was about to write a novel of a post as to what I think the problem of racism is and some ways to change the status quo, but I thought that I would get some feedback before I posted.
Honeykiss, How I see racism is probably not that different from how you see racism. Unless you meant 'you' in a general way which I can't tell.
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06-20-2002, 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Tom Earp
And God Created Earth! He created Man in the Name of Adam!
Well then he created Eve! Then they ate a damn Apple!
They put on closthes! BOO!
The World Prospered and became Idolitrist!
A Tower was built to reach the Heavens and God!
God was Pissed so destroyed the Tower and turned the Tribes into a differnet group of people (Clans) who spake differnet Languages and were of Differnet Colors! None could understand each other so went their seperate ways to find a life!
Ok if you dont go for that story a how about Monkeys>???
neicey, while I feel you have a valid idea, do not , place us all in the same catagory as you sometimes seem to be doing! We do not hate yyoouu but try to understand what you go on aobut! You fire at everyone on this site no matter who, Black, Red, Yellow, or white!
Rest your self!
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Your ranting and raving doesn't make any sense. I haven't placed anyone into a category.I do have a rebuttal and again that's part of engaging in dialogue in a forum.If it's something I disagree with, do you expect me to stifle my thoughts?? May I suggest you look in a dictionary and find the word forum?Better yet, I'll find it.
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06-20-2002, 07:38 PM
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Tom Earp
A forum is:
1. A public meeting place for open discussion.
2. A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper or a radio or television program.
A rebuttal is :
rebuttal
n 1: the act of refuting by offering a contrary contention or argument
Read it, study it, digest these definitions if you will!
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