Embarrsing another GDI wearing Greek Shirts

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yes we are taught how to "get rid of" 'nalia that can't be passed down and so forth. That has never stopped 'nalia from showing up at Goodwills and at homeless shelters.

Regarding getting stuff from people who wear them. That works better in theory than in practice. Most of us haven't been undergrads in years so our interactions with people are different. A kid doesn't have to give you that KAPsi jacket. In fact, no one has to give you anything. I know NPHCers who used to carry white tshirts around in case they ran into a nonmember wearing letters. Years later, those NPHCers don't care as much--unless they don't have a life. If nonmembers and perps are understanding and able to relinquish the 'nalia, they will hand over the stuff. If they don't want to for whatever reason, move on as to not have an assault change. I still know Greeks who will inflict physical harm over such things. Those are folks with nothing to lose apparently.

I knew this guy (NPHC) who bragged about beating up this guy who had his letters on. But, he went to jail as a result. That is craziness!

I do not have time, nor do I want, to police letters. I can not imagine going to jail over something like that. Even if some perp had on my letters, it means nothing that they are wearing them if they have not learned the meaning behind the letters, and other AKA symbols. If they have not worked hard for their letters. I do not mean pledging, but if they have not worked at 5am at the soup kitchen, in the cold at Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure, if they have not worked to be sisterly......it is trival that they want to perp. It may as well be just a pretty shirt, because I AM NOT going to JAIL for beating up a perp!

[kellybell]

For sure, dstchaos...I know what goes on at my school isn't the same everywhere. I just wanted to point out that does happen on campuses where that is perceived as "normal," whether it's appropriate or not :/

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

I knew this guy (NPHC) who bragged about beating up this guy who had his letters on. But, he went to jail as a result. That is craziness!

I do not have time, nor do I want, to police letters. I can not imagine going to jail over something like that. Even if some perp had on my letters, it means nothing that they are wearing them if they have not learned the meaning behind the letters, and other AKA symbols. If they have not worked hard for their letters. I do not mean pledging, but if they have not worked at 5am at the soup kitchen, in the cold at Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure, if they have not worked to be sisterly......it is trival that they want to perp. It may as well be just a pretty shirt, because I AM NOT going to JAIL for beating up a perp!

We already know the nonviolent procedure for dealing with perps.

[AKAShannon]

I didn't not ask for the jacket because that's not my org. I just kindly explained to her why she should be wearing it!

Now it was an AKA jacket, I would not have taken it from her. I would have called her mother to see what's up!

Yeah, I know a few who would gladly inflict physical harm as well. I don't agree with it; however, I understand!

It's sad to see so many greeks, especially NPHCers, disrespecting their own orgs.

[twinkle555]

i was just looking through one of my friends' myspace pics and she is wearing double stitched ZTA letters!!! she doesnt go to college, and has never gone to college, so there is no way. i wrote her a comment asking her where she got it....im pretty curious..

[sia!]

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[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by kellybell

For sure, dstchaos...I know what goes on at my school isn't the same everywhere. I just wanted to point out that does happen on campuses where that is perceived as "normal," whether it's appropriate or not :/

I was not a Dartmouth, but IFC and NPC chapters at our school never made a big deal about it. I'm not sure if NPHC felt the same and when I was in school, there were no multi-cultural chapters.
It's not like everyone of our 50,000+ students did it, but no one threw a hissy over it.

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

We already know the nonviolent procedure for dealing with perps.

Yeppers

[fantASTic]

What is interesting is that some people think that non-Greeks wearing their letters make their org look bad..

Wouldn't you think that physically attacking someone over a t-shirt is making your org look bad, too?

Not saying that we should just let anyone wear our letters, but you'd think people would realize this...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

What is interesting is that some people think that non-Greeks wearing their letters make their org look bad..

Wouldn't you think that physically attacking someone over a t-shirt is making your org look bad, too?

Not saying that we should just let anyone wear our letters, but you'd think people would realize this...

I understand what you are saying and if I see a homeless person wearing our 'nalia, I say shame on us for making it accessible. But if I see someone who is obviously perping then I say shame on them and the vendor who sold it to them.

The NPHC has licensed vendors that we are only to buy from. But there are others out there who don't want to pay the licensing fee who will sell to anybody.

While I wouldn't tear off anyone's shirt, etc. I would ask them who they purchased it from and when and report it to our HQ. I would also tell the perp it is not nice to fool mother nature.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I understand what you are saying and if I see a homeless person wearing our 'nalia, I say shame in usfor making it accessible. But if I see someone who is obviously perping then I say shame on them and the vendor who sold it to them.

The NPHC has licensed vendors that we are only to buy from. But there are others out there who don't want to pay the licensing fee who will sell to anybody.

While I wouldn't tear off anyone's shirt, etc. I would ask them who they purchased it from and when and report it to our HQ. I would also tell the perp it is not nice to fool mother nature.

Would a licensed vendor really prohibit someone else from purchasing 'nalia? I don't think it's in their rules to restrict who they sell the products to, unless it's a badge of some sort.

I mean, the Greek store I went to in STL had a ton of NPHC stuff (and I know they're licensed for the NPC stuff at least), and I don't know that they would have stopped me from buying any of it. And if asked I suspect a small lie would cover everything.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Would a licensed vendor really prohibit someone else from purchasing 'nalia? I don't think it's in their rules to restrict who they sell the products to, unless it's a badge of some sort.

I mean, the Greek store I went to in STL had a ton of NPHC stuff (and I know they're licensed for the NPC stuff at least), and I don't know that they would have stopped me from buying any of it. And if asked I suspect a small lie would cover everything.

Just what I was thinking...can they really tell if you're a member or not?

[SWTXBelle]

It is just a special kind of pathetic to pretend you are a member of a GLO when you are not.
That said, I wouldn't take it into my own hands and act as the G Phi B police. I might make sure everyone I knew was aware that someone wasn't actually a member, but looking at our creed I'm pretty sure our founders wouldn't want physical force to be used (!).

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Just what I was thinking...can they really tell if you're a member or not?

I don't think anyone ever asked me for ID. In fact, when I was in school, I bought a shirt for my cousin, who is in another GLO as a birthday gift