IU PNM Numbers - Page 10

IndianaSigKap · #1 01-22-2015, 11:00 AM

Indiana DOES use RFM. They have used it for around 15 years now. It's quota/total that they don't use.

DeltaBetaBaby · #2 01-22-2015, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Indiana DOES use RFM. They have used it for around 15 years now. It's quota/total that they don't use.

Right, sorry, that's what I meant.

Titchou · #3 02-24-2015, 11:38 PM

The NPC Manual of Information (aka The Green Book). If you are a member of an NPC group, you can get it thru your national HQ. Also, your national org should have some sort of recruitment handbook/style guide/etcc. If you are not an NPC member, why are you posting this sort of thing?

33girl · #4 02-25-2015, 11:39 AM

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The NPC Manual of Information (aka The Green Book). If you are a member of an NPC group, you can get it thru your national HQ. Also, your national org should have some sort of recruitment handbook/style guide/etcc. If you are not an NPC member, why are you posting this sort of thing?

Did she d & f (delete & flounce) because I corrected her? I'm not usually pickypants about terms, but that particular usage is just nails on a chalkboard to me.

DubaiSis · #5 02-25-2015, 12:23 AM

What does no shows mean? At what point did they not show?

Titchou · #6 02-25-2015, 11:45 AM

I did a search for her and it seems she was a mom with a daughter going thru at IU last year...though I didn't read all her posts...

ComradesTrue · #7 02-25-2015, 12:37 PM

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Did she d & f (delete & flounce) because I corrected her? I'm not usually pickypants about terms, but that particular usage is just nails on a chalkboard to me.

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I did a search for her and it seems she was a mom with a daughter going thru at IU last year...though I didn't read all her posts...

She also posted quota and matched numbers for every group in the other IU thread, but that post also seems to be gone. I thought it was interesting information, though if it was that readily available was surprised no one else hadn't already posted it.

According to her list there were only 5 groups that matched less than 50 members, and 2 of those were at 48 or 49. That definitely accounts for the increased number of bids and decrease in girls who went to Pref and wound up bidless. (saving editorial comment on that for another day...)

Good for IU and the chapters. We aren't going to get our wish of quota/total in the next few years, but incremental increasing of their definition of quota won't have all the problems that they think it will. These girls in the 50 member pledge classes will not know any different than having 50 girls in their pledge class. Interestingly there were a lot of chapters that had exactly that number, including some who historically take much less, so it does appear that Panhellenic put that suggestion out and many took it.

Next year if they go to 53-55 the sun will still come up and those girls will know no different either. Increasing by even 3-5 a year can go a long way when there are that many organizations on campus.

It may take 5 years, but how long have we been waiting? This is the most promising sign that I have seen.

thetalady · #8 02-25-2015, 12:48 PM

Ok ok ok

AZTheta · #9 02-25-2015, 02:01 PM

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Ok ok ok

I'm not uncomfortable with you! It's the non-Greek parent coming here, stirring the pot, that was not right, IMO. If it is public info, like 33 said, it would be all over those other two sites.

thetalady · #10 02-25-2015, 09:10 PM

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I'm not uncomfortable with you! It's the non-Greek parent coming here, stirring the pot, that was not right, IMO. If it is public info, like 33 said, it would be all over those other two sites.

No problem, ladies! If the information on pledge classes & other stats was not for public dissemination, unlike universities in my experience, then I agree that it shouldn't be posted here.

I am just used to those numbers being pretty commonly published.

IndianaSigKap · #11 02-25-2015, 06:38 PM

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Good for IU and the chapters. We aren't going to get our wish of quota/total in the next few years, but incremental increasing of their definition of quota won't have all the problems that they think it will. These girls in the 50 member pledge classes will not know any different than having 50 girls in their pledge class. Interestingly there were a lot of chapters that had exactly that number, including some who historically take much less, so it does appear that Panhellenic put that suggestion out and many took it.

I was at the meeting where the information that emptynest posted was discussed. Nothing she posted was incorrect, but I do not know if the information was for public consumption yet, or ever. I had some interaction with her last year, and my impression is that she shared the information not knowing she shouldn't. I truly do not think she meant any harm.

Panhellenic voted an approved a minimum quota for next year. All chapters must take at least 50, however they may take more. Now that almost every chapter has a live out policy, I would assume that many more chapters should be open to QAs than they have been in the past.

33girl · #12 02-25-2015, 07:04 PM

Is the 50 minimum a vote from Panhellenic or a dictate from the school administration? I would be more comfortable with the latter.

Complete lack of pc ahead: per irishpipes' thread, two of the smallest pledge classes were those in the two historically Jewish sororities. Is that because of the religious aspect or just because their physical plants are smaller?

IndianaSigKap · #13 02-25-2015, 07:20 PM

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Is the 50 minimum a vote from Panhellenic or a dictate from the school administration? I would be more comfortable with the latter.

Panhellenic vote.

AZTheta · #14 02-25-2015, 10:38 PM

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I was at the meeting where the information that emptynest posted was discussed. Nothing she posted was incorrect, but I do not know if the information was for public consumption yet, or ever. I had some interaction with her last year, and my impression is that she shared the information not knowing she shouldn't. I truly do not think she meant any harm.

Panhellenic voted an approved a minimum quota for next year. All chapters must take at least 50, however they may take more. Now that almost every chapter has a live out policy, I would assume that many more chapters should be open to QAs than they have been in the past.

Re: the bolded. You didn't come here and share it. You attended the meeting. She did not. I am not upset with thetalady for sharing what the parent (stb--nest) posted and then deleted. At thetalady's campus, those numbers are apparently public. At mine, they are not.

How can Panhellenic tell the chapters that they must take quota? Isn't that up to each chapter? Please help me understand that, because I'm pretty sure I understand something differently when it comes to quota.

AZTheta · #15 02-25-2015, 01:19 PM

You know, I'm really uncomfortable with the information that stbemtpynest posted, simply because I suspect she obtained the information from her daughter and it wasn't her information to share. And I don't know if Indiana does make that information public. The fact that she (stb) went and deleted posts suggests that my suspicion is correct.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (specifically calling on AZ-Alpha Xi here) but that sort of information (at ARIZONA) is not shared publicly.

ETA: maybe I'm wrong, that's okay - I'm still uncomfortable.

I did read all her posts from when her daughter went through and accepted a bid from an unhoused chapter. I hope that the mother's blabbermouth won't harm the daughter, because that just isn't fair to the daughter IMO. The mother needs to step away from the keyboard when it comes to Indiana recruitment.

One more thing - my autocorrect keeps fighting me on "emtpy" and I can't even pronounce it.