What has GC taught you?

[Drolefille]

Shut UP, they still don't know what color!

[Tom Earp]

LOL, people will and do collect anything, just check ebay!!!!

I know some Ritual Collectors and they hold them very close to the vest. They have couth!

Yes, I have read some and for what it is worth, each GLO has their way of doing Rituals and that is thier business.

LXA has it's own as anyone else does.

I am a member of mine and that is the one I care about!

Oh, does anyone use candles?

Guess it proves how nosey some people are and more worried about others first.

Also shows the minds of some people who worry about people to much!

[midwesterngirl]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

LOL, people will and do collect anything, just check ebay!!!!

I know some Ritual Collectors and they hold them very close to the vest. They have couth!

Thats the difference,Tom. I would say a vast majority of collectors collect for the beauty and appreciation of the ritual and the historical significance of the material, not just for spite.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by midwesterngirl

Thats the difference,Tom. I would say a vast majority of collectors collect for the beauty and appreciation of the ritual and the historical significance of the material, not just for spite.

You just said a mouthful.

It is just like appreciation of any art and is what it is!

I and others are proud of theirs as well they should be!

Oh, Mine is The Best!

[Tom Earp]

GC has taught me to be careful of people on Sites!

Do I need to say anymore?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by midwesterngirl

Thats the difference,Tom. I would say a vast majority of collectors collect for the beauty and appreciation of the ritual and the historical significance of the material, not just for spite.

I'm not being accusatory, but it's still troublesome, isn't it?

It's not that the secrecy gives the ritual it's value, but it does contribute to the uniqueness of your experience. It's the level of the organization that unites you as a group and excludes others.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

This one. It could be a coincidence but I doubt it. We'll have to wait and see. This person was particularly active lately but has been suprisingly quiet since the posts started yesterday.

I see.

The only other question I have is how people knew for sure that it was the same individual on the other forum. In the posts on the other forum, did the person have the same user name as on GC? Or did the person reference GC? Or is it that someone here on GC already knew her real name, and thus put 2+2 together that it was this individual?

I guess I would just want to be certain that the information was correct/verifiable before condemning a person. (Not to say that anyone was acting without just cause...obviously there are people who have more details than I do!) I'm just curious how the connection was made between a poster on another forum and a poster on GC - I'm assuming perhaps it was one of the scenarios I listed above?

[susan314]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I'm not being accusatory, but it's still troublesome, isn't it?

It's not that the secrecy gives the ritual it's value, but it does contribute to the uniqueness of your experience. It's the level of the organization that unites you as a group and excludes others.

I agree with you for the most part. But, I do agree that I can live with the idea of someone reviewing rituals for historical reasons and being a person who handles the information with a reasonable level of respect. Versus a person who wants to obtain ritual to blab it everywhere, criticize it, try to spite or harm an organization, try to be a "perp," etc. If someone outside my organization were going to be aware of my ritual, I'd rather have it be one of the legitimate respectful collectors. (Though I'd still rather have it be no one outside my organization at all!)

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by susan314

I agree with you for the most part. But, I do agree that I can live with the idea of someone reviewing rituals for historical reasons and being a person who handles the information with a reasonable level of respect. Versus a person who wants to obtain ritual to blab it everywhere, criticize it, try to spite or harm an organization, try to be a "perp," etc. If someone outside my organization were going to be aware of my ritual, I'd rather have it be one of the legitimate respectful collectors. (Though I'd still rather have it be no one outside my organization at all!)

Oh absolutely.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by susan314

I see.

The only other question I have is how people knew for sure that it was the same individual on the other forum. In the posts on the other forum, did the person have the same user name as on GC? Or did the person reference GC? Or is it that someone here on GC already knew her real name, and thus put 2+2 together that it was this individual?

I guess I would just want to be certain that the information was correct/verifiable before condemning a person. (Not to say that anyone was acting without just cause...obviously there are people who have more details than I do!) I'm just curious how the connection was made between a poster on another forum and a poster on GC - I'm assuming perhaps it was one of the scenarios I listed above?

One of the above scenarios. If you're going to do this, at least be smart. GCers are all over the internet.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by susan314

I see.

The only other question I have is how people knew for sure that it was the same individual on the other forum. In the posts on the other forum, did the person have the same user name as on GC? Or did the person reference GC? Or is it that someone here on GC already knew her real name, and thus put 2+2 together that it was this individual?

I guess I would just want to be certain that the information was correct/verifiable before condemning a person. (Not to say that anyone was acting without just cause...obviously there are people who have more details than I do!) I'm just curious how the connection was made between a poster on another forum and a poster on GC - I'm assuming perhaps it was one of the scenarios I listed above?

What other Forum?

There is a poster on GC who is a Ritual Collector and got all kinds of hell about it! He has also given some very great advice and I am glad to call him a friend even being from a different GLO.

But, He collects Rituals and will not divulge their contents. That is His thing as another I know. I have read some and I will not divulge them either.

While thay can be interesting reading it is still for those who are members and become Initiated.

The hatred that comes from some is so sad and uncalled for!

Well, have a good day!

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I wouldn't be happy if someone had a copy of my ritual. But I'd take comfort in the fact that just reading it doesn't mean you "know" it (most of it cannot be understood by reading anyway). It has to be experienced for anyone to ever truly understand it.

So true. When I was in college I babysat for a family on a fairly regular basis. They had a room they called the library, and I remember looking at the books once and stumbling across a ritual book (I was a pledge at the time). So I pulled it of the shelf and looked at it. And quite honestly, it didn't make alot of sense to me- I got the gist of it, but not the emotion or the mysticism or whatever you want to call it that it would have when it was actually happening.

Would I look at it if I had the chance now? Nope. Once I went through ritual I realized what it means and how imporant it is. Mine is enough for me, I don't need to know anyone else's.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

GC has taught me to be careful of people on Sites!

Do I need to say anymore?

Bwahahahaha!

Me too. Me too.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

What other Forum?

There is a poster on GC who is a Ritual Collector and got all kinds of hell about it! He has also given some very great advice and I am glad to call him a friend even being from a different GLO.

But, He collects Rituals and will not divulge their contents. That is His thing as another I know. I have read some and I will not divulge them either.

While thay can be interesting reading it is still for those who are members and become Initiated.

The hatred that comes from some is so sad and uncalled for!

Well, have a good day!

Apparently you haven't been following what has been going on in the thread. This has nothing to do with the male GC poster you referenced.

There is a female GC poster who is planning to go through NPC recruitment in the fall, who joined a ritual collecting forum and obtained several NPC group rituals. (See pages 6-7 of this thread for reference.) Some people are offended that this person went about obtaining these rituals while she is in the process of attempting to rush several of those chapters. I'd hazard a guess that some people might also be concerned that the rituals will be used as retaliation (by publicly posting them on the web) if those groups choose to cut her.

We're not talking about a case of a regular ritual collector like the one you know. (Who some people may also object to, but I think most people would agree that a legit ritual collector who studies them for historical purposes and handles the information w/respect is a different situation than what I just described above.)

I do not know exactly why this person decided to obtain those rituals. The optimist in me would like to believe that they were not obtained for spiteful purposes - I'd like to think that it was misguided curiosity. However, I do think it was not a particularly wise act on her part, especially shortly before recruitment. Regardless of what her true intentions actually were, it looks very bad...and even the perception of something like that is bad enough.

[Drolefille]

That was very patient of you, I'm impressed. I doubt he gets it though.