Paula Deen's use of the "N"-Word

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by maconmagnolia

On another note: Apparently, Kate Gosselin is under fire for a picture she's posted.

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/the...5171&gt128103=

Kate Gosselin's response:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3497771.html

It sucks that the photo was supposedly taken from her computer. Her response and the comments section are examples of why I do not call individuals racist. "Racist" and "racism" are magical words that make people miss the larger point that SHOULD be made. To respond to Kate's comments, yes, eversince interracial humping and unions have existed, there have been people who hold biased viewpoints against their hump partner's or life partner's racial, ethnic, or cultural group. Their hump partner or spouse is considered "different than the rest" and/or "he/she doesn't mind my racial slurs, why do you care." It's the same as "some of my bestfriends are (insert group)." Yes, you can have biracial or multiracial children and still hold prejudice views against that very same group(s) of people. You can also make disparaging racial, ethnic, and cultural remarks towards your children--sometimes disguised as cutesy inside jokes. Hell, there have always been people who hate their own racial, ethnic, and cultural group so why is it so difficult for people to grasp hating another racial, ethnic, cultural group with which the people you love are affiliated?

Whether or not K.G. is "racist" would depend on whether her stupid joke shapes her behaviors.

Originally Posted by TonyB06

I thought it was a bit overwritten, his "points" too hard to decipher. Read about the first third and then gave up.

I thought it was just me. FSUZeta, would you mind translating that blog(?) for us? What do you interpret him to be saying? I only gathered the "you're from the Deep South...I'm Black and not mad..." part of it.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I didn't realize Paula Deen might have been referencing an actual specific restaurant: http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2..._nostalgia.php

"I knew immediately which restaurant she was referring to -- Pittypat's Porch, named for the slave-owning Gone With The Wind character, which claims to be the longest continuously operational restaurant in Atlanta. It opened in 1967, and hasn't changed much in the intervening decades. It aims for "an atmosphere similar to an old plantation."

It didn't even occur to me that she was talking about Pittypat's Porch, though it makes perfect sense. I remember it from 30 years ago.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I thought it was just me. FSUZeta, would you mind translating that blog(?) for us? What do you interpret him to be saying? I only gathered the "you're from the Deep South...I'm Black and not mad..." part of it.

Not FSUZeta, but what I got from it was that he was less disaapointed about her use of the N-word (and I did like his Avenue Q reference -- "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist") and more disappointed that as the supposed maven of Southern cooking, she failed to talk about or acknowledge where Southern foods came from and the sources that made Southern cuisine what it is. He described this as part of a larger problem where a lack of diverse voices about Southern food leads some to write enslaved Africans and their descendants out of the story.

It did get a bit dense, rambly and hard to follow at times, but I there was some worthwhile stuff in there.

[Kevin]

Apparently now they do.

It had slipped my mind that she was ever a thing.

[Missouri Ivy]

How nice that a PNM is trying to explain to us how the world works. 18 and bulletproof.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Missouri Ivy

How nice that a PNM is trying to explain to us how the world works. 18 and bulletproof.

It's totes precious.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

It's totes precious.

Books could be written on what I didn't know about race in America as an 18 year old white girl.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KDCat

Books could be written on what I didn't know about race in America as an 18 year old white girl.

Books could be written on what I didn't know about race in America (race, ethnicity, and culture around the world) as an 18 year old young Black woman.

Books are being written about what I continue to learn about these topics.

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Books are being written about what I continue to learn about these topics.

Are they getting published? I want to buy an autographed copy, please.

[UVA17]

Originally Posted by KDCat

Books could be written on what I didn't know about race in America as an 18 year old white girl.

That's the beauty of being able to pass for either when the mood strikes. And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by UVA17

That's the beauty of being able to pass for either when the mood strikes. And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

I am going to give you a very good piece of advice. I would strongly suggest you dial back the insults - as a pnm who has already posted identifying information on this site you really don't want to run the risk of insulting long-time GreekChatters who 1.) have mad detective skills and 2.) have contacts like you wouldn't believe. You would not be the first pnm to think she was unidentifiable and "bulletproof" to be left wondering why her recruitment came to a crashing halt on the day she was dropped by all the chapters.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by UVA17

Ah yes, calling attention to a typo. Last bastion of those who really don't have anything else to say.

No. The last bastion of those who don't really have anything to say is actually name-calling. You know, like

Originally Posted by UVA17

Oh Phil, Phil, Phil. You are such a closed-minded dolt.

or

Originally Posted by UVA17

And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

ETA:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I am going to give you a very good piece of advice. I would strongly suggest you dial back the insults - as a pnm who has already posted identifying information on this site you really don't want to run the risk of insulting long-time GreekChatters who 1.) have mad detective skills and 2.) have contacts like you wouldn't believe.

Not to mention the very real possibility that sorority members from the school she'll be attending could well be reading this thread and forming opinions based on the insults.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by UVA17

That's the beauty of being able to pass for either when the mood strikes. And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

Bless your heart.

[DrPhil]

Paula Deen, ya'llllllllllll:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/di...anted=all&_r=0

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...rther-crumbles

And since I can't think of another place to announce this on GC, the documentary "Dark Girls" is re-airing on OWN at 10:00pm EST. I am about to watch it in 15 minutes. These are not sob stories, these are true stories.

http://officialdarkgirlsmovie.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3478913.html

[StealthMode]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Paula Deen, ya'llllllllllll:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/di...anted=all&_r=0

How did I miss the part about pornography in the kitchen? What was THAT about?

SN: I've been meaning to see "Dark Girls" for awhile now. I tried to see it a showing at a conference but it was sold out both nights. However, I could do without the "Darker is better" and "I hope my children are dark like pharaohs and queens because you can't look like royalty being light as hell" comments. Um we all descended from the same royalty so back up off my lite brite. But that's for another thread entirely.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by StealthMode

How did I miss the part about pornography in the kitchen? What was THAT about?

Have you read Anthony Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential"?!