Former Penn State Coach Arrested - Page 10

ASTalumna06 · #**136** 11-09-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

What is this Kool Aid that you and psusue are talking about? Did you two also drink Kool Aid to make you have the opinions that you have?

You are reading it incorrectly. No one with a grain of brain believes that any human cannot make mistakes. No one with a grain of brain believes that any human is perfect. Again, you are admitting that it was a mistake. JoePa admits it was a mistake. We all agree so what is the point of contention?

But people have been reacting as though Paterno should never have made a mistake.. Ever. You don't know how many texts and Facebook messages I've received in the last few days with people saying things like, "I thought Paterno was all about honor and integrity," and, "Too bad your football coach doesn't practice what he preaches.". The fact of the matter is, he made a mistake that he may not even have recognized as a mistake until a few days ago, because that's when he actually learned of the severity of the incident.

For some, Paterno going to his superior instead of the police is the only thing that defines him. THAT is what's ridiculous.. Especially because no one seems to know all the facts (except, of course, Paterno).

33girl · #**137** 11-09-2011, 10:06 PM

^^^That is exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks.

Munchkin03 · #**138** 11-09-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

What is this Kool Aid that you and psusue are talking about? Did you two also drink Kool Aid to make you have the opinions that you have?

They serve that Kool-Aid at the monthly Black people meetings too.

But seriously, when do they start investigating The Second Mile? According to a statement on their website, they claim that they were notified of the first investigation (where Sandusky was cleared of wrongdoing). Then, when he came to them in 2008 regarding the grand jury investigation, they kept him away from their activities involving kids. I'm sure they're playing a game of CYA as well, but I hope that as soon as the dust clears involving PSU that The Second Mile is thoroughly investigated.

knight_shadow · #**139** 11-09-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

They serve that Kool-Aid at the monthly Black people meetings too.

But seriously, when do they start investigating The Second Mile? According to a statement on their website, they claim that they were notified of the first investigation (where Sandusky was cleared of wrongdoing). Then, when he came to them in 2008 regarding the grand jury investigation, they kept him away from their activities involving kids. I'm sure they're playing a game of CYA as well, but I hope that as soon as the dust clears involving PSU that The Second Mile is thoroughly investigated.

THANK YOU.

I brought that up a few pages ago. Many people are so hung up on bringing down a (somewhat removed) giant that they're forgetting to focus on some of the people directly involved.

ASTalumna06 · #**140** 11-09-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

^^^That is exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks.

No problem

knight_shadow · #**141** 11-09-2011, 10:39 PM

This is supposedly from the Grand Jury (not sure how to verify)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/r...ygrangjury.pdf

KSigkid · #**142** 11-09-2011, 11:22 PM

ESPN is reporting that Paterno has been fired.

I agree that there are a lot of areas, including Second Mile, that need to be investigated here.

ETA, has everyone seen this...from April?! http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...r-comment-area

ASTalumna06 · #**143** 11-09-2011, 11:22 PM

Currently listening to the Board of Trustees press coference. Joe Paterno has been fired.

I'm in shock over all of this.

AGDLynn · #**144** 11-09-2011, 11:25 PM

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ier-penn-state

knight_shadow · #**145** 11-09-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

ETA, has everyone seen this...from April?! http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...r-comment-area

Yep

lovespink88 · #**146** 11-10-2011, 12:11 AM

Live stream on campus. http://www.wgntv.com/videogallery/65...ews-conference

Kind of a lame shot right now, but maybe they're change it. Kinda interesting.

KSUViolet06 · #**147** 11-10-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

They serve that Kool-Aid at the monthly Black people meetings too.

I'm sad. I didn't get a black people meeting invite. My address is up to date in the black people database and everything

christiangirl · #**148** 11-10-2011, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

It is because you refuse to capitalize Black.

I capitalize Black all the time! Where's my invitation? *pokes out bottom lip*

I've been seeing this everywhere but never actually looked at the story till just now. "The firing" was all over the TVs at the place I went tonight so I figured I'd click the link to see what the fuss was about.

My jaw dropped and spit fell out. It was very unattractive.

kddani · #**149** 11-10-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

But people have been reacting as though Paterno should never have made a mistake.. Ever. You don't know how many texts and Facebook messages I've received in the last few days with people saying things like, "I thought Paterno was all about honor and integrity," and, "Too bad your football coach doesn't practice what he preaches.". The fact of the matter is, he made a mistake that he may not even have recognized as a mistake until a few days ago, because that's when he actually learned of the severity of the incident.

For some, Paterno going to his superior instead of the police is the only thing that defines him. THAT is what's ridiculous.. Especially because no one seems to know all the facts (except, of course, Paterno).

My issue with it (and many others' issue with it) isn't the one-time mistake. It is CONTINUALLY, over the course of over a decade, up until last freaking week, allowing this man to be associated with the program, to bring children on campus, to bring them into the football facilities, to allow him all access to the program. That's my biggest beef. To allow this sick f&*k to continue his association with the program and provide him a playground for his crimes.

Many other heads will roll. Probably far more people knew about this, and it will come out eventually. Wonder how long Tom Bradley will be around after further investigation is done? I wonder what he knew? I wonder why all of the other teams over the years that interviewed him for HC never hired him?

*winter* · #**150** 11-10-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani

My issue with it (and many others' issue with it) isn't the one-time mistake. It is CONTINUALLY, over the course of over a decade, up until last freaking week, allowing this man to be associated with the program, to bring children on campus, to bring them into the football facilities, to allow him all access to the program. That's my biggest beef. To allow this sick f&*k to continue his association with the program and provide him a playground for his crimes?

Exactly! THEY held the keys to the facilities. If they even thought there was abuse, the program should have been suspended and investigated. Taking that route would have produced a media frenzy...not unlike the one we see now...so it was easier to sweep it under the rug.

"You don't know what you'd do in tht situation..." Um...I'd not stop until I found out if there was truth to the allegations, and I wouldn't be able to live with myself until I did everything humanly possible. NO ONE messes with kids on my watch- Ive called CPS on people and I wouldn't hesitate to do it again!