Harvard newspaper doesn't want a 4th sorority

[AnchorAlumna]

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...rority-social/

[DeltaBetaBaby]

The editorial staff of The Crimson makes sweeping generalizations with no evidence to back it up.

For example, "Even though two of Harvard’s three current sororities are in the process of purchasing real estate in and around Harvard Square, that space will never be used to provide the tight-knit sense of community that naturally comes from shared living arrangements."

What does that even mean? The editors somehow know that having a chapter house won't provide community? Even though community comes naturally from having a chapter house?

I think they make some good points about the gender divisions in the Harvard community, but that is a broader conversation, and fixing that is not the aim of the sororities.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...rority-social/

The author of the article references Pledged like it's a credible source. Between that and the traditional discord of the student paper and Greek Life at any university, I would take this with a Rocky Mountain sized grain of salt.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

The author of the article references Pledged like it's a credible source.

Add to that the author's flubbing of Title IX and what it requires.

Proof that ignorance can survive even an Ivy League education.

[Gusteau]

LOL

As if I wasn't already in disagreement with the premise of the article, citing "Pledged" completely lost me.

Is Title IX really the reason Harvard doesn't recognize these organizations? Aren't these people supposed to be at the vanguard of intelligence?

In an unrelated note, many schools have reported their largest ever numbers of PNMs this year, including my own University - I wonder what's causing this trend.

[SthrnZeta]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

LOL

As if I wasn't already in disagreement with the premise of the article, citing "Pledged" completely lost me.

Is Title IX really the reason Harvard doesn't recognize these organizations? Aren't these people supposed to be at the vanguard of intelligence?

In an unrelated note, many schools have reported their largest ever numbers of PNMs this year, including my own University - I wonder what's causing this trend.

Well that would explain my chapter doing so well I didn't know it was a national trend though, but it makes sense given the millennial generation attitude of being involved in teams and organizations, desire for networking opportunities, etc.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

Well that would explain my chapter doing so well I didn't know it was a national trend though, but it makes sense given the millennial generation attitude of being involved in teams and organizations, desire for networking opportunities, etc.

It's one of many reasons that Theta Chi is doing so well.

Re: Dartmouth, I think it's safe to say that the character of the Greek System at Dartmouth is different than the rest of the Ivies, or really, many other universities.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

. . .
In an unrelated note, many schools have reported their largest ever numbers of PNMs this year, including my own University - I wonder what's causing this trend.

Large numbers of PNMs are being reported by two of the fraternities at Harvard, too:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...-number-frats/

[DeltaBetaBaby]

One question: I didn't know that NPC orgs would colonize on campuses where they aren't recognized by the university. Apparently I was mistaken. Anyone know of other examples.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

One question: I didn't know that NPC orgs would colonize on campuses where they aren't recognized by the university. Apparently I was mistaken. Anyone know of other examples.

Princeton, I think.

I don't think that's NPC policy, just a recommendation. The prestige of a chapter at an Ivy (and the perceived financial health of the students and alumnae) outweighs the not-being-recognized factor. They're also aware of why the schools don't recognize Greeks - i.e. for bullshit PC reasons - not because of religious or risk mgmt factors.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Princeton, I think.

Princeton is recognized.

Santa Clara University in California does not recognize groups.

[IotaMuanno]

Originally Posted by Blondie93

Princeton is recognized.

Santa Clara University in California does not recognize groups.

In Canada many schools have NPC GLOs but have no recognition from the University, in fact, lack of recognition is the norm. For example, my university, WLU, has both a Delta Gamma and Alpha Phi chapter (as well as one local sorority) and we are not recognized. The same situation applies to almost every school in Canada (and most have NPC groups). In fact, only University of British Columbia has a formal campus IFC and Panhellenic in the traditional American sense.

Maybe this clarifies things?

Enjoy your discussion about Harvard...

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

One question: I didn't know that NPC orgs would colonize on campuses where they aren't recognized by the university. Apparently I was mistaken. Anyone know of other examples.

Originally Posted by IotaMuanno

In Canada many schools have NPC GLOs but have no recognition from the University, in fact, lack of recognition is the norm. For example, my university, WLU, has both a Delta Gamma and Alpha Phi chapter (as well as one local sorority) and we are not recognized. The same situation applies to almost every school in Canada (and most have NPC groups). In fact, only University of British Columbia has a formal campus IFC and Panhellenic in the traditional American sense.

Maybe this clarifies things?

Enjoy your discussion about Harvard...

Yep, I was about to post "Almost every Canadian chapter" when I saw this post.

[ColdInCanada11]

Originally Posted by IotaMuanno

In Canada many schools have NPC GLOs but have no recognition from the University, in fact, lack of recognition is the norm. For example, my university, WLU, has both a Delta Gamma and Alpha Phi chapter (as well as one local sorority) and we are not recognized. The same situation applies to almost every school in Canada (and most have NPC groups). In fact, only University of British Columbia has a formal campus IFC and Panhellenic in the traditional American sense.

Maybe this clarifies things?

Enjoy your discussion about Harvard...

I don't know if it's quite that "across-the-board" in Canada. At my school (Manitoba), all three NPC chapters are recognised, as well as our Panhellenic. I think that it comes down to the specific university.

Also, I believe that in Canada (and possibly in the United States, but that would just be a guess), that many NPC groups were formed when they were recognized on campus, and then remained after they were de-recognised (if that is actually a word).

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I don't think that's NPC policy, just a recommendation. The prestige of a chapter at an Ivy (and the perceived financial health of the students and alumnae) outweighs the not-being-recognized factor.

Yes, yes, a million times yes. This is also why, with the exception of Dartmouth, when an Ivy chapter loses its charter, you know they did Something. Very. Bad.