The Real Housewives of NJ - Page 10

MUSK81 · #1 06-09-2010, 04:08 PM

As for Danielle's behavior being "excusable," I never said it was. I merely said I could understand it, given that we've lived through a similar experience. I started my post by saying she was crazy! Her non-stop seeking of approval, her obsession with people who have made it clear that they want nothing to do with her, her glomming onto casual friends to "help" her, her constant testing of every person and every situation around her - it's all in the literature. I've done some of it myself, although not anywhere near to the extent that Danielle has. That's not to say that non-adoptees don't do any of these things, but certain behaviors and groups of behaviors are more common with some of us. And getting counseling is just what she should do. A prescription for Xanax wouldn't go amiss, either!

Nanners52674 · #2 06-09-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MUSK81

As for Danielle's behavior being "excusable," I never said it was. I merely said I could understand it, given that we've lived through a similar experience. I started my post by saying she was crazy! Her non-stop seeking of approval, her obsession with people who have made it clear that they want nothing to do with her, her glomming onto casual friends to "help" her, her constant testing of every person and every situation around her - it's all in the literature. I've done some of it myself, although not anywhere near to the extent that Danielle has. That's not to say that non-adoptees don't do any of these things, but certain behaviors and groups of behaviors are more common with some of us. And getting counseling is just what she should do. A prescription for Xanax wouldn't go amiss, either!

I think that those "symptoms" have nothing to do with being adopted. I know plenty of people who some of Danielle's issues. It's more low self-esteem and just plain crazy than if you were adopted or not.

MUSK81 · #3 06-09-2010, 04:30 PM

I agree ... but if anything leads to poor self-esteem, it's being given away to strangers at birth, having your entire background and heritage being kept a secret from you "for your own good," being raised by people who, although they are wonderful, don't look like you, act like you, think like you, or understand why you aren't just like them. It's being constantly questioned about your "real" parents and looked down upon because in some people's minds, there must be something wrong with you because your own mother didn't want you. Or thinking that you're going to bring "bad blood" into a family because you don't know your background (or are even allowed to know.) I could go on, but you get the general idea. There are many beautiful and positive and wonderful aspects to being adopted, but like everything else, there's a dark side, too. Danielle appears to have experienced more than her share of the dark side, and although I don't agree with her behavior, I can understand her issues and sympathize up to a point. I'm not asking anyone else to understand or sympathize. I'm merely stating my own opinion, as everyone else is stating theirs.

epchick · #4 06-09-2010, 11:32 PM

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I agree ... but if anything leads to poor self-esteem, it's being given away to strangers at birth, having your entire background and heritage being kept a secret from you "for your own good," being raised by people who, although they are wonderful, don't look like you, act like you, think like you, or understand why you aren't just like them.

Danielle brags about her Sicilian heritage, so I seriously doubt anything was kept "secret" to her.

And that might be your experience being adopted, but not every person who is adopted is sheltered or have everything kept hidden from them.

PM_Mama00 · #5 06-10-2010, 12:25 AM

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1. Sorry, but it's an adoptee thing, you wouldn't understand.

2. The Manzo "children" are of age and chose to put themselves on national television. They're open to the same comments and scrutiny as anyone else in the public eye.

Danielle? I didn't know you were on here! What org were you in?

Nanners52674 · #6 06-10-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MUSK81

I agree ... but if anything leads to poor self-esteem, it's being given away to strangers at birth, having your entire background and heritage being kept a secret from you "for your own good," being raised by people who, although they are wonderful, don't look like you, act like you, think like you, or understand why you aren't just like them. It's being constantly questioned about your "real" parents and looked down upon because in some people's minds, there must be something wrong with you because your own mother didn't want you. Or thinking that you're going to bring "bad blood" into a family because you don't know your background (or are even allowed to know.) I could go on, but you get the general idea. There are many beautiful and positive and wonderful aspects to being adopted, but like everything else, there's a dark side, too. Danielle appears to have experienced more than her share of the dark side, and although I don't agree with her behavior, I can understand her issues and sympathize up to a point. I'm not asking anyone else to understand or sympathize. I'm merely stating my own opinion, as everyone else is stating theirs.

I'm sorry your adoption experience was so difficult and traumatizing but that's YOU and YOUR experience. Saying Danielle is the way she is because she was adopted gives her no reason to be personally responsible for her own behavior. She is in her 40's with children it's time to get a therapist work on her issues and become an adult.

DreamfulSpirit · #7 06-11-2010, 09:53 AM

So someone is leaving the Housewives of NJ, according to Bravo's little teaser on Monday.

Here's a bit of a spoiler I may have found...so if you don't want to know, don't read it! Spoiler

BetteDavisEyes · #8 06-12-2010, 12:27 AM

Holy Crap can she look any tackier with that outfit?

I'm not surprised. She's not on the show as much as the others and she's mentioned quite a few times that she doesn't like being on it.

PM_Mama00 · #9 06-22-2010, 02:14 AM

OMG I can't wait till next week! I wana know who had the knife!

Nanners52674 · #10 06-29-2010, 08:22 AM

Seriously!!!

epchick · #11 06-29-2010, 02:10 PM

"she doesn't know what kind of crazy she invited" Hahaha Danielle, glad you finally realize that you're crazy.

WTF was that shit though? "Paris Hilton taught me this." You could see how fed up Kim G was with her, hopefully she'll see the light soon enough.

I WANNA SEEE THE FIGHTTTTTT!!! Arrgh!

joliebelle · #12 06-29-2010, 05:06 PM

Bravo really should've extended this episode instead of making us wait for next week for the fight. All opinions about Danielle aside, she didn't deserve to get her tracks pulled out

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"she doesn't know what kind of crazy she invited" Hahaha Danielle, glad you finally realize that you're crazy.

MTE

KSUViolet06 · #13 06-29-2010, 05:09 PM

Danielle is crazy.

I mean, who does/says some of that stuff?

Even if the saleslady at the store was rude to you, who handles it like that? She's so overly dramatic.

Benzgirl · #14 06-29-2010, 06:55 PM

So the two Kims are sisters-in-law. Hmmm. I wonder which one will replace Dina.

As for Danielle, yes, she is a psycho bitch, but Teresa just stirs up trouble too. I would love to see her daughters in 10-15 years to see if they turn out the same as Alexa and Raquel on the OC houswives. It's obvious by the BK filing that Juicy Joe and Joisey Grrrl didn't save for their daughter's education.

epchick · #15 06-29-2010, 07:09 PM

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So the two Kims are sisters-in-law. Hmmm. I wonder which one will replace Dina.

They are?????? I didn't know that.