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Old 03-11-2005, 05:03 PM
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:02 PM
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I wonder what Katie Couric had to say about Al Rokers documentary... isn't she a TriDelt?
Dont get me started on Katie Couric. I believe shes the debil's spawn.

If she did respond, it was probably in the trite Katie Couric fake-ass concern, with the brow furrowed and the trademark, "its just such a tragedy" comment. The only thing KC cares about is perpetuating her place in the spotlight as 'america's sweetheart.'

Not my america. Not my sweetheart. But thats a different thread.
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:40 PM
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I don't really know if it's even their position to respond to something like Al Roker's show. They don't represent any of us, in fact, they're a business. However, the general public doesn't know that, all they see is "recovering sorority girls". It seems like the response is a way to grab PR for their business.
Have to agree here.
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:46 PM
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All ya'll quit your damn bitching. Its marketing folx.

At least these gals are doing something positive. They arent promoting the idea that sorority women are slutty alcoholics, which most newspaper articles seem to do. And some of ya'll go off on them for standing up for ya'll on the Al Roker thing? Damned if they do and Damned if they dont. Its like a bunch of petty gals in here after a rush that everyone was pissed off about and the infractions are flying. Get over yourselves, learn to laugh at yourselves, and fight the battles you can win. Seriously, with everything going against greek life, these gals arent your enemies. LEts focus on the real problems facing sororities. If ya dont know what they are, mosey on over to the Risk Managemnt Forum and I am sure hoosier will point them out for us all.
Starting a business, yes that's positive. But that's where it ends. I don't find what their doing to be at all positive toward sorority women.

And yes, I'm entitled to whatever effing (as was said) opinion I want.

And since I also fall into their "target market" they should be concerned that I immediately thought about recovering from an addiction when I saw their name.
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Old 03-11-2005, 08:51 PM
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I am an alumna member, so I am in the target market. I also work in marketing.

However, when I first read their name my impression was that sorority life was a bad thing for them, and I was inclined to not read more. Not the reaction they were hoping to elicit from their target market...
That's exactly what I was thinking, and I too am their target market.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:51 AM
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Of course ya'll are entitled to your opinions. No one said ya'll werent. What was said was for everyone to relax, cause its not that big of a deal. Again, were talking about a company's name. Not Al-Queda. Not the KKK. Not Child Molestation.

Nowdays, everyone in our society is just looking for some damned excuse to be offended about something.
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Old 03-12-2005, 09:37 AM
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Only speaking for myself...

I wasn't offended, I just had a negative reaction to a name that was intended to have a clever, "warm and friendly" feel. (And I have a close family member who is active in AA, so I might be more prone to being offended than most would be.)

It's only marketing, true, and it seems like the discussion was an analysis of how they might have missed the mark in their choice of name. One of my job responsibilities is naming new products, so this is my area of expertise. No harm, no foul. It's just not the best choice of name, which our mini focus group of members of the target market here seemed to indicate.

I like the concept, and wish these ladies the greatest success.
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:45 AM
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Re: Only speaking for myself...

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I wasn't offended, I just had a negative reaction to a name that was intended to have a clever, "warm and friendly" feel. (And I have a close family member who is active in AA, so I might be more prone to being offended than most would be.)

It's only marketing, true, and it seems like the discussion was an analysis of how they might have missed the mark in their choice of name. One of my job responsibilities is naming new products, so this is my area of expertise. No harm, no foul. It's just not the best choice of name, which our mini focus group of members of the target market here seemed to indicate.

I like the concept, and wish these ladies the greatest success.
I think everyone has either a family member, close friend, or acquaintance in AA or NA or has a drug or alcohol addicted contact. We're in college. It's gona happen, so don't act like you're the only person who would be offended by this.

I guess you just can't please everyone. But you know what they say, negative publicity is better than no publicity. Congratulations on further publicizing their company!

Now, how about back on the topic of their response and who is and isn't offended about the trivialness of the name of their company. Let them worry about it.
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:18 PM
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Re: Re: Only speaking for myself...

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I think everyone has either a family member, close friend, or acquaintance in AA or NA or has a drug or alcohol addicted contact. We're in college. It's gona happen, so don't act like you're the only person who would be offended by this.

I guess you just can't please everyone. But you know what they say, negative publicity is better than no publicity. Congratulations on further publicizing their company!

Now, how about back on the topic of their response and who is and isn't offended about the trivialness of the name of their company. Let them worry about it.
I can understand "sticking up" for them b/c they're your Phi Mu sisters, but seriously, chill. No one has said anything nasty, it's all been pretty objective. Everything that's been stated has been constructive criticism, and coming from their target market, if they were smart business people the criticism would be worth it's weight in gold. We have a right to discuss them, they are representing themselves as members of the greek community, and representing their business as their own greek community.

As I said above, I think their response was pretty good, but I also do not believe at all that it was their place to make a response. And if they were making a response, then they should've made it as sorority women, not sorority women plugging their business.
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:15 PM
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In looking at their website a little more, I can find nothing negative about them or their business.

Maybe the choice of name is a little unfortunate---OH WELL.

Maybe their choice to respond to what they may have perceived as a wrong offended some of your oh-so-delicate sensibilities--OH WELL.

If you don't like them or what they're doing, don't visit their website and don't buy their book. I'm sure they'll do just fine.
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:22 PM
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If you don't like them or what they're doing, don't visit their website and don't buy their book. I'm sure they'll do just fine.
And if you don't like what people have to say about it then you don't have to read their posts. OH WELL
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:28 PM
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And if you don't like what people have to say about it then you don't have to read their posts. OH WELL
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:30 PM
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Unfortunately, I can't put moderators on ignore.
If you want to ignore someone who has never insulted you or said something nasty to you and in all likelihood has agreed with you on many other issues and perhaps even had your back on those issues, just b/c you don't like what they have to say on a certain subject, perhaps you're the one with the "oh-so-delicate sensibilities"
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:53 PM
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If you want to ignore someone who has never insulted you or said something nasty to you and in all likelihood has agreed with you on many other issues and perhaps even had your back on those issues, just b/c you don't like what they have to say on a certain subject, perhaps you're the one with the "oh-so-delicate sensibilities"
I think it's more than one subject. And honestly, a poster can be obnoxious without being rude. There are plenty of examples of this all over the board.

If I had the ability to block mods, I'd probably have about half of them blocked, LOL . . . whereas right now I only have one person on my blocked list.
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Old 03-12-2005, 03:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Only speaking for myself...

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I can understand "sticking up" for them b/c they're your Phi Mu sisters, but seriously, chill. No one has said anything nasty, it's all been pretty objective. Everything that's been stated has been constructive criticism, and coming from their target market, if they were smart business people the criticism would be worth it's weight in gold. We have a right to discuss them, they are representing themselves as members of the greek community, and representing their business as their own greek community.

As I said above, I think their response was pretty good, but I also do not believe at all that it was their place to make a response. And if they were making a response, then they should've made it as sorority women, not sorority women plugging their business.
Who are you to tell someone to chill? Take a look at your past posts. And it's not just because they are Phi Mus. I just don't see the big problem. Like Munchkin said, maybe the name is a lil unfortunate but if they are successful then what does it matter?
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