Does Canada Have The Balls?

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
In defense of Canada, at least it isn't Arkansas.

People from uneducated, poor states shouldn't talk about other countries' shortcomings.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by RioLambdaAlum
we should be like canada...i mean seariously think about it have you ever heard them go to war? i can't really say i have. (this is where i would insert a dorky face but do there not being any dorky faces to pick from pretend you see one )

Yeah...

Taken from the "Canadian Apology" Thread:
http://www.greeksource.com/gcforums/...nadian+apology

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

Other than World War 2 there has only been:
the American Rebellion (Benidict Arnold attacked Lower Canada)
the War of 1812 (nice to see you've fixed the White House)
the Crimean War (yes Canada sent troops)
the Fenian Raids (Irish American Civil War Veterans attacking Canada)
the Boer War (South Africa for those that don't know)
the Great War (well for us it was - 1914 to 1918)
the Second World War (already mentioned)
the Korean War
the War on Terror/Afghanistan
other than that it has been peace-keeping everywhere.

[Tom Earp]

Oh, so Canada is wrong? That is interesting for sure.

I beleive there were times that America decided to just be its self and screw the rest! Sorry, been to long to remember the Proper wording of Isolationism, oops, guess that was it.

Well, We of America as a World Power maybe should start thinking of that again.

Just sit back and watch the world go to Hell. Or maybe when it gets so bad, just blow the hell out of it and leave it uninhabital for years. Make the area substance for Mason Jars for Canning, The new table tops in the old Danish motif.

Close off the Borders, do away with NAFTA, keep unto ourselves, dont worry about Oil, do wind and solar power. Try getting that through Legislation? Forget shoes, clothing, electronic items or anything else that is said "Made In America"!

Venting done.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by RioLambdaAlum
we should be like canada...i mean seariously think about it have you ever heard them go to war?

Yeah, Canada has gone to war, only we spin-doctor it and call it "peace-keeping".

[kappaloo]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Oh, so Canada is wrong? That is interesting for sure.

I beleive there were times that America decided to just be its self and screw the rest! Sorry, been to long to remember the Proper wording of Isolationism, oops, guess that was it.

Well, We of America as a World Power maybe should start thinking of that again.

Just sit back and watch the world go to Hell. Or maybe when it gets so bad, just blow the hell out of it and leave it uninhabital for years. Make the area substance for Mason Jars for Canning, The new table tops in the old Danish motif.

Close off the Borders, do away with NAFTA, keep unto ourselves, dont worry about Oil, do wind and solar power. Try getting that through Legislation? Forget shoes, clothing, electronic items or anything else that is said "Made In America"!

Venting done.

Is this pro-Isolationist or anti-Isolationist? My TE to English isn't working.

[RioLambdaAlum]

i'm not much into politics so ya know anything to be stupid and make stupid comments like i did is fun. got an interesting response to my comment didn't it

[Tom Earp]

PRO, DAH!

Hell, how can anyone be in isolation anymore unless in the Hospital?

This little old world of ours just gets smaller and must depend on each other!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by CutiePie2000
Yeah, Canada has gone to war, only we spin-doctor it and call it "peace-keeping".

Some argue that Canada played a role in the peace keeping/war crimes that happened in Yugoslavia.

And Cooper I don't care that your country charged them, I think we should charge people in your country for it and perhaps declare members of your military persona non-grata for that incident as well as many other actions.

-Rudey

[Optimist Prime]

Originally posted by Rudey
Some argue that Canada played a role in the peace keeping/war crimes that happened in Yugoslavia.

And Cooper I don't care that your country charged them, I think we should charge people in your country for it and perhaps declare members of your military persona non-grata for that incident as well as many other actions.

-Rudey

That won't happen. And neither will that situation occur in reverse, i.e. Canada charging Bush. The U.S. and Canadian Militaries share damn near everything. I even heard from one of my teachers that one president during the cold war (forget) traded the codes with PM of Cannada, in case North America was attacked and one was injured, the other could come to defence. I don't if this was true or just a rumor, but there is website jointly run by both gov'ts explaining the nature of the relationship better than I have.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
Some argue that Canada played a role in the peace keeping/war crimes that happened in Yugoslavia.

And Cooper I don't care that your country charged them, I think we should charge people in your country for it and perhaps declare members of your military persona non-grata for that incident as well as many other actions.

-Rudey

If your going to toss out an accustation like that please at least go through the steps of trying to back it up... at least name some of these "incidents".

As for charging them well you could... but they have already been charged, and sentanced - all through the Canadian military criminal system, the civilian criminal system, and finally through the then proto-ICC (well all those competent enough to stand trial). As for declaring them persona non-grata... no need, because of the charges leveled against the people in question they are forbiden from leaving Canada and are on probation for the rest of their lives.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
That won't happen. And neither will that situation occur in reverse, i.e. Canada charging Bush. The U.S. and Canadian Militaries share damn near everything. I even heard from one of my teachers that one president during the cold war (forget) traded the codes with PM of Cannada, in case North America was attacked and one was injured, the other could come to defence. I don't if this was true or just a rumor, but there is website jointly run by both gov'ts explaining the nature of the relationship better than I have.

Yes the Canadian & US militaries do share alot... at a tactical level:
Joint Training and Exchanges
Joint Exercises
Weapon Systems (LAV 25 & M16A3 are Canadian designs)

and at a strategic level:
NATO (next commander will be the former Chief of Defense from Canada)
NORAD... just to name the two biggies

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by RACooper
the Boer War (South Africa for those that don't know)

(Slight hijack)
Interestingly enough, the modern idea of concentration camp was first used during the Anglo-Boer war. The Brits, in their civilized notion, rounded up all the women and childrens of the Boers and put them into camps. Giving them little to no food and forcing them to do hardship labours. Thousand died and this experience was one of the major reasons for the rise of the Nationalist attitude by the Boer, which gave rise to apartheid in the 50s.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by moe.ron
(Slight hijack)
Interestingly enough, the modern idea of concentration camp was first used during the Anglo-Boer war. The Brits, in their civilized notion, rounded up all the women and childrens of the Boers and put them into camps. Giving them little to no food and forcing them to do hardship labours. Thousand died and this experience was one of the major reasons for the rise of the Nationalist attitude by the Boer, which gave rise to apartheid in the 50s.

Yep the "concentration camp" was literally designed to concentrate the civilian or non-combatant population into controlled areas that the Biritsh could easily cordon off... all of this design to ulitmately deny aid and comfort to the Boer Kommandos operating in the veldte. The British were then able to effectively deny mobility and support to the guerrila forces, robbing the guerrilas of their primary advantage.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by RACooper
Yep the "concentration camp" was literally designed to concentrate the civilian or non-combatant population into controlled areas that the Biritsh could easily cordon off... all of this design to ulitmately deny aid and comfort to the Boer Kommandos operating in the veldte. The British were then able to effectively deny mobility and support to the guerrila forces, robbing the guerrilas of their primary advantage.

To this day, there are still hostilities toward the British for their actions during the anglo-boer war. There is a simmering hostility by the Afrikans speaking whites against the English speaking white. They estimated 27,000 children and women were killed due to the poor hygene, lack of food and basic materials of the camps.

The UK government has never apologized for their acts during the Anglo-Boer War.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by moe.ron
To this day, there are still hostilities toward the British for their actions during the anglo-boer war. There is a simmering hostility by the Afrikans speaking whites against the English speaking white. They estimated 27,000 children and women were killed due to the poor hygene, lack of food and basic materials of the camps.

The UK government has never apologized for their acts during the Anglo-Boer War.

I can understand and empathize with this hostile feeling, from everything I've read about the conflict. It is a shame that with all the effort Britain put into the continuance of the Commonwealth that more efforts were not made to heal old wounds.