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Old 11-11-2004, 06:01 PM
Senusret I Senusret I is offline
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Dude, that just didn't make sense!
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:05 PM
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Well Dude, maybe it will to some!

Those that are not small minded!
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:06 PM
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So I'm small minded because YOU don't make sense?
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:13 PM
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..."non passport owning."
A little off topic, but a statistic I hear was that only 10% of Americans hold passports...
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:15 PM
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I DON'T HAVE A PASSPORT!!!


OHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

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Old 11-11-2004, 06:23 PM
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IS HE WEARING WHITEFACE?!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:25 PM
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Dude, that just didn't make sense!
Because of TEH MOONSHINE.

I don't find what the student did offensive to me as a white person. A stupid costume yes, offensive no. Why don't I find it offensive? Well, there's no reason for it to BE offensive to me, no historical connection that makes it smack of racism.

As for the whole "slavery was a long time ago" and the seemingly "get over it" attitude in some posts....Senruset makes a key point - slavery is responsible in a large part for building the United States. When your country is built on that, I don't think it's something you can expect everyone will be all happy and forget about a hundred years later. I don't think it's something you SHOULD forget about and get over. I don't recall white folks being marginalized in US history like African Americans, Natives and other ethnic groups have been. So for white folks to tell African Americans to "get over it" shows how things haven't really changed much in a hundred years. We (white folk) are still in a more powerful position in society than those who are non-white, and to deny it is ignorant about the society we live in.

Yes, slavery existed elsewhere and still exists in the world. But we aren't talking about the world here, we are talking about the USA and its history and you can't compare one country and its slave history with anothers, they just won't be the same experiences.
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:36 PM
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This brings me to ask this question: Why aren't Irish-Americans all that upset with Notre Dame's mascot? He's kind of stereotypical and the Irish were a marginalized group until recently.
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Old 11-11-2004, 07:10 PM
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Lightbulb

Well, maybe it is trying to make a point in cheek!

MoonShine, no ariesrising it is not! It is just frome being tired and dealing with inepitudale people who do not have the ability to ask for what they want because they just point at the picture of the package.

Point, hell, I have many items that are next each other!

I am not a friggen mind reader.

Oh on and on, for stupidity is not my time line!

Oh Tide Detergent is to get the dirt of anything out of?????

Oh, it is white, as it is borax that helps beat the hell out of your clothes to make them clean up their act! and the stank from having to work
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Old 11-11-2004, 08:07 PM
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Why aren't Irish-Americans all that upset with Notre Dame's mascot?
In part because it's very much _their_ university and _their_ choice to use the mascot. It's not something that non-Irish people created to make fun of them.

Kind of like it's fine to talk about how fat your own mom is, but telling somebody else that their mom's fat is rightfully considerered obnoxious and rude.
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Old 11-11-2004, 08:23 PM
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Do not ever try to tell me that there was never Bondage among white people, Irish, Itialians, Asians, South Americans, Mexicans and many others.
I think any search of the internet will reveal websites that explicitly detail and even have video and audio of bondage between these groups.

Oops, wrong type of bondage. My bad.
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Old 11-11-2004, 08:33 PM
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Although "yellow" face or "red" face doesn't have the same historical context of blackface, I would still find it rather offensive. To me, it's far worse if a while person does black/red/yellow/whatever face than if someone of another race does white face -- since white people are in a position of power in this country and pretty much always have been.
Maybe I’m just a misinformed, unsympathetic Southern white girl, but it seems like minority groups (not exclusively African-Americans) rightfully demand equal rights. My problems come the same people feel that they can bypass rules because they are a minority. I am truly sorry that minorities (especially African-Americans) have been treated so poorly in the past, but the only way to get past this racism is for everyone to leave it alone. This means minorities cannot demand special treatment and they cannot scream racism whenever something bad happens to them.

But hey, that’s just how I feel.
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Old 11-11-2004, 08:40 PM
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My problems come the same people feel that they can bypass rules because they are a minority.... This means minorities cannot demand special treatment and they cannot scream racism whenever something bad happens to them.

Those are my sentiments exactly, and this is coming from someone who is only 1/4 (or possibly less) white. I'm sure that in this case, the guy who did the whiteface will be punished a lot less than the original offenders.
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Old 11-12-2004, 12:51 AM
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Wrong.

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1 - The Transatlantic Slave Trade is what built this country.

2 - The legacy of the Transatlantic Slave Trade is what keeps this country divided.

3 - There is no escaping the effects of slavery.

1 - Wrong. There were only slaves in the agricultural southern states. The northern states had a capitalist economy

2 - Wrong. I didn't hear it mentioned in the recent campaign. If you can cite any law in any jurisdiction keeping minorities down, please post such.

3 - Wrong. (Altho it may be true as long as the poverty and racism pimps like Jesse, Al, and the King clan find it financially advantageous to promote victimism.) If Bill Cosby's message could get out, who knows how much progress could be achieved quickly.

Our Vietnamese, Chinese, Cuban, and Korean friends have shown how hard work, sticking together, and positive goals - not victimization - leads to success.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:06 AM
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Re: Wrong.

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Our Vietnamese, Chinese, Cuban, and Korean friends have shown how hard work, sticking together, and positive goals - not victimization - leads to success.
Don't forget Filipinos
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