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05-20-2008, 04:28 PM
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Well, I know UMass Lowell doesn't have any sorority houses near campus, but its definitely because of the city's law against it. It was written about in the campus paper back in September. it isn't technically a "brothel law", but is referred to as such.
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Too bad there is nothing in online edition of the paper THe UML Conncector for that Sept-Nov that backs your claim. But, after you're done being busy with finals, perhaps you could get the print edition of the paper and scan it for us? I'd be very interested in knowing. You see, I have a personal interest in this as I have family in Lowell who rent buildings they own. I would want to inform them right away to make sure they aren't breaking the law.
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05-20-2008, 04:34 PM
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Too bad there is nothing in online edition of the paper THe UML Conncector for that Sept-Nov that backs your claim. But, after you're done being busy with finals, perhaps you could get the print edition of the paper and scan it for us? I'd be very interested in knowing. You see, I have a personal interest in this as I have family in Lowell who rent buildings they own. I would want to inform them right away to make sure they aren't breaking the law.
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OMG. Your family's running whorehouses?
We so can't be friends anymore.
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05-20-2008, 04:40 PM
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OMG. Your family's running whorehouses?
We so can't be friends anymore.
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I guess if you want to get technical, it would be the Boy's family. But understand. I wouldn't want your good name to be smutted by association with me.
I found it amusing the Massachusetts Law About Landlord and Tenant from the Mass Trial Court Law Library cited Snopes about this matter.
I thought Greek Life wasn't recognized by the school? I could be very wrong about that, and I apologize if I am.
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05-20-2008, 04:53 PM
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I guess if you want to get technical, it would be the Boy's family. But understand. I wouldn't want your good name to be smutted by association with me.
I found it amusing the Massachusetts Law About Landlord and Tenant from the Mass Trial Court Law Library cited Snopes about this matter.
I thought Greek Life wasn't recognized by the school? I could be very wrong about that, and I apologize if I am.
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I keep forgetting his family is your family now (or soon to be).
You must take me to the whorehouses on our next road trip!
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05-20-2008, 03:58 PM
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Sure, yes, its a misnomer, but the original intent of the zoning laws was in fact to prevent women from living together. Think of the location and history; when this was established, how were women treated? Massachusetts has SO many of these old, outdated laws.
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05-20-2008, 04:01 PM
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Sure, yes, its a misnomer, but the original intent of the zoning laws was in fact to prevent women from living together. Think of the location and history; when this was established, how were women treated? Massachusetts has SO many of these old, outdated laws.
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Care to cite your source on that?
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05-20-2008, 04:09 PM
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Are you really going to fight me on this through a message board? Because I really don't have time for this. If you'd like to go in to the city yourself, go right ahead. I have quite a bit of a thing called life I'd like to live, and finals are far more important than some petty argument with someone online.
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05-20-2008, 04:14 PM
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Are you really going to fight me on this through a message board? Because I really don't have time for this. If you'd like to go in to the city yourself, go right ahead. I have quite a bit of a thing called life I'd like to live, and finals are far more important than some petty argument with someone online.
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My hat's off to you.
And this isn't a "fight", dear. No need to get pissy because someone asked you to cite your source and you can't provide it.
If you bothered to read the thread, you'll see that you're not the first one to pull something out of your ass not be able to back it up. You're probably not going to be the last, either.
So if Lowell, MA zoning laws were really created to prevent women whores from living together, I'm really curious to see the documentation for that.
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05-20-2008, 04:42 PM
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Are you really going to fight me on this through a message board? Because I really don't have time for this. If you'd like to go in to the city yourself, go right ahead. I have quite a bit of a thing called life I'd like to live, and finals are far more important than some petty argument with someone online.
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Oh good lord.
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LOL.
Emmy, look through the pages in this thread. This exact conversation has been had numerous times. If you don't want to believe anyone here, how about an independent source like Snopes? The article is here: http://www.snopes.com/college/halls/brothel.asp
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05-20-2008, 04:45 PM
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Are you really going to fight me on this through a message board?
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05-20-2008, 04:28 PM
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Well, thank you for your welcome here.
I'm sure that the original paperwork on those zoning laws are buried under years of other needless laws, again, MA is well known for the history, and laws around here are pretty historic.
However, there is no need to call my reaction "pissy", and lastly, do not make the assumption that I pulled my comment "out of my ass", because I did not. My lack of documentation is primarily due to the fact that I don't work in Lowell City Hall and would rather not spend my time digging through the red tape to extinguish the blue laws of my City.
But you can have at it if you'd like. I would also like to read their exact wording on the matter.
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05-20-2008, 04:31 PM
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My friend down the hall actually had (it was about 2 months ago, I'd be ecstatic if she still has it) a copy of that edition. It even quoted one of my friends and showed a picture of his fraternity's house.
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05-20-2008, 04:33 PM
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The paper only made one reference to a "brothel law", and it was only in relation to the sororities' lack of housing.
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05-20-2008, 04:35 PM
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The paper only made one reference to a "brothel law", and it was only in relation to the sororities' lack of housing.
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http://www.snopes.com/college/halls/brothel.asp
If you haven't already read it.
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Short and sweet, if any so-called "brothel laws" anywhere tie a building's classification as a bordello to the number of occupants, we've yet to find documentation that proves this.
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05-20-2008, 04:38 PM
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Newspapers are not always very good about doing their research when writing about Greeks. If there is indeed a "brothel law" it should be an easy matter to call the appropriate city office and ask for the citation. You may even be able to do a search function on the city website.
As noted before, without specific written proof, experience teaches us that the odds are the city may have an ordinance specifying that there is a limit to the number of non-related people who can live in a home but that unless it is specific to women (which would, in this day and age, be quickly struck down, I think) it cannot be called a "brothel law". The newspaper was WRONG.
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