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Old 05-15-2004, 03:50 PM
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If you are REALLY curious about what the ritual for a social GLO is like, here's a novel way to find out:

I'm a member of both Phi Eta Sigma and Alpha Lambda Delta - both are national academic honor societies for freshmen. However, Phi Eta Sigma started out as a social fraternity at the University of Illinois in 1923. Similarly, Alpha Lambda Delta was founded as a social sorority at the University of Illinois in 1924. In the 30s they both went to an academic format. Finally, they went co-ed in the 70s due to the Title IX legislation. We had chapters both on my campus. When Title IX passed through, they went co-ed and "joined forces". In effect, at Long Beach State, we were "Phi Eta Sigma-Alpha Lambda Delta".

Our rituals are indeed open, parents and friends routinely attend our initiation ceremony and dinner. When I became President, one of my tasks was to organize the initiation of our new members. As I read through I documents, I realized that we performed a modified version of both rituals. That is, some years ago, the members of my chapter(s) decided not to conduct each ritual separately (to save time maybe?); but rather to do one modifed ritual which incorporates the "secrets" from each. As a result, my chapter had eliminated the use of the robes, candles and such from our version.

In my President's box I had both of the official ritual manuscripts from both HQs. It was really interesting to read each ritual in it's whole form and see how it's supposed to be done. Keep in mind that both Phi Eta Sigma and Alpha Lambda Delta started out as social GLOs and the ritual only had minor modifications when the transition to an academic format was made. So, if ever I wanted to know what a social fraternity and social sorority ritual looked like, I only needed to read the ones I had sitting right in my house!

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Old 05-15-2004, 05:57 PM
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lol, So do I.

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Old 05-15-2004, 05:59 PM
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BTW, Why would anyone want to know another sorority/fraternity's secrets?

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Old 05-15-2004, 06:16 PM
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I know a few snippets here and there about different orgs because of older alum who for some reason or another regret or trivialize their Greek experience.

I admit to being curious about the rituals of the org that we were founded to affiliate with, simply because I wonder how similar our ritual is to theirs and whether or not it contains any of the same components contributed by the founding sister who was an alum of an NPC group.
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:30 PM
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BTW, Why would anyone want to know another sorority/fraternity's secrets?

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My thoughts exactly!
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:45 PM
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My thoughts exactly!
Ditto.

My fraternity is on its second ritual. Our first one was "revealed" soon after our founding, and our current ritual is quite old. In the 19th century, many chapters tried to get ahold of rivals' rituals, and publicly reveal them. Some fraternities disolved from such events.

Anyway, I know some things about our original ritual. Well, a few years ago, I was getting drunk with a friend at a bar, and he offered tell me his fraternity's ritual if I told him mine. I could have BSed him with our first ritual, but I didn't. I told him that I am under oath, and that I will never reveal my ritual. That ended that conversation.

The larger point is this; Engaging in such behavior is dishonorable, and antithetical to values of all of our organizations (or should be.) We are custodians of our rituals, and the values that they embody. The curiosity that might compel one to seek the knowledge of another GLO's ritual, will only undermine the ethical code that this person swore to, and therefore weaken his or her's GLO's values, as exercised by its members.

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Old 05-15-2004, 07:02 PM
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Russ, damn your use of big words!

But what you said!

While We Each have certain creeds, clasps, or parts of the Ritual, it is Important to each of us. Well, only Each of us for what it means!

Read on Mc Duffy reader!
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:02 PM
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To me, it seems as if some people WANT to share their info. I know I would never ASK someone about their ritual, b/c I would never TELL any info about ours.

I have seen people that get pissed off and leave a glo and try to tell as much as they know.

I have first hand seen a guy that was interested in me tell me info to "impress me"... (It didn't work; it repulsed me.)

I have also seen people that get drunk and spill the beans... But, I believe that the drunk-tellers would have told anyway and tend to use their intoxication as a redeeming excuse.

I believe the majority of greeks want to keep their info sacred and secret. There's just a few that always ruin things.
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:10 PM
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TippieChick. Yes!

Thank you for putting it so much better!

Trying to do Snapper, hope I am remembering to do it right!
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Old 05-15-2004, 10:01 PM
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Old 05-16-2004, 01:35 AM
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I don't know about anyone else, but our ruby-studded genie costume was the last thing I was thinking of after I had a few drinks.
I hate to burst your bubble, Sheila, but that night at Peter's Pub after a couple of drinks you were standing on the table bellydancing and humming "Genie in a Bottle". You were in the middle of telling George the Bartender how you're a genie in a bottle and he's gotta rub you the right way by the time we got you out of there.

Ask Cheyenne, Dani, Mindy and Ali; they'll tell ya!
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:44 AM
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Yep...

Well, a bro and I came across some pretty secret information about a certain important sorority...

My little bro's big sis is a member of that sorority (which will remain unnamed) ... and she confirmed the info...

It's quite fascinating information - for sure! shaped the modern greek system in a way!

It actually is CRAZY information - linking them with another society... never would have guessed... I guess that was the point...

Anyhow, my big sis a Delta Gamma, and I pretty much hang out with all of 'em... My twin in Delta Gamma, who is from Connecticut (but goes to school with me here in California obviously) has a male friend at UCONN who told her the Delta Gamma PASSWORD over the phone during a somewhat intoxicated conversation...

Sufficed to say, my twin was pretty shocked!

Anyhow, I love ritual... Ours is really chill

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Old 05-16-2004, 06:14 PM
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I personally don't care about anyone's ritual, grip, challenges, etc.

I will say a lot of info is exchanged (grip and challenges, esp) due to pillow talk and people who lack discretion when initiating challenges.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:19 PM
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I don't get the obsession, either. I think there are more important things in life than to ferret out other's grips and whistles. What's the sense? So you can lord it over them? He who knows the most secrets is dubbed "King of the Greeks?"
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Old 05-16-2004, 07:33 PM
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So you can lord it over them? He who knows the most secrets is dubbed "King of the Greeks?"
But it's a really pretty crown...
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