FSU Panhellenic Extension Information

[kiqualey12]

I think that all 3 of the above mentioned should have a chance. I don't think that it would be smart to bring back SK or Tri-Sig because of their closing just a few years ago. I think that it would be smart to bring back one that has history with the university such as Alpha Phi or AOII.

[shadokat]

ladybug, don't be shocked. Cornell did it just this year (I mean no disrespect to those groups who have since come there), when Chi Omega and D Phi E closed....I think they added A Xi D, and are looking to add a second. It happens...

[Tom Earp]

Whom ever is chosen, I for one wish them the best of luck!

But I can totally agree with Russell, My Chapter at a smaller school at the moment has no House! Competing without a House can be devastating if all others have Houses.

A lot wold depend on what the circumstances were for The Soroitys leaving Campus. The norm to wash out/graduate those current members is 3-4 years and start afresh! I guess it depends on the Commitment of the National IHQ on how bad they would want to be on a State U. for the prestige!

[bruinaphi]

Is anyone going to the Extension Open Forums?

[KerriMarie]

Originally posted by ladybug1116
I know of at least one active chapter struggling for numbers, possibly two.

I think just the one is still struggling... since I think the possible second chapter that you are referring to is my own dear home, and we're doing OK. Not Tri-Delt or ADPi great, but we've come leaps and bounds in the past few years, and will only continue to get better. We're not hurting for numbers. We've got numbers. We have some other issues, but numbers isn't one of them.

[ladybug1116]

Originally posted by KerriMarie
I think just the one is still struggling...

I wasn't sure and I wasn't going to name names. Things can change so much from year to year...one good or bad rush can set the tone for a little while as you well know. I am glad to hear your chapter is doing well though...all of your sisters that I met while in school were extremely sweet girls and one of them was in my "family" in my music service organization.

[FSUSigEpAlum]

WOW, didn’t realize how old this thread was before I started commenting…..

But about the AOPi witchcraft rumor…

While I have no idea if the rumor has even the slightest bit of credibility, I‘m pretty sure my chapter is responsible for it still being circulated 20+ years later. Sig Ep bought the AOPi house in 1980, and the witchcraft rumor has become part of the chapter’s folklore, passed from semester to semester, pledge class to pledge class. Stories like that tend to get a mind of their own over time, so I can only assume there is little basis in fact, but even the most outlandish tales are often wrapped around a kernel of truth. Whether or not they were kicked off campus for witchcraft I’m very interested in where that rumor originated. If anyone knows anything else about the FSU AOPi chapter I’d love to hear it.

As far as them coming back to FSU, if you don’t think a rumor like that would be held against them you’re fooling yourself. How long would it take before that chapter got pegged as “witches,” regardless of the validity of the claims?

[aopinthesky]

Originally posted by FSUSigEpAlum
If anyone knows anything else about the FSU AOPi chapter I’d love to hear it.

As far as them coming back to FSU, if you don’t think a rumor like that would be held against them you’re fooling yourself. How long would it take before that chapter got pegged as “witches,” regardless of the validity of the claims?

It would be a shame if a sorority colonized at FSU only to be "done in" by small minded and short sighted gossip. Any group takes that risk, I suppose, when they seek to expand. While I have NO problem with factual items on these threads (whether they relate to AOII or some other group) I am offended by the continual mention of something someone heard or some rumor that someone thinks they might know something about. It is not helpful to the expansion process and also not fair.

[xo_kathy]

Originally posted by FSUSigEpAlum

While I have no idea if the rumor has even the slightest bit of credibility, I‘m pretty sure my chapter is responsible for it still being circulated 20+ years later.

As far as them coming back to FSU, if you don’t think a rumor like that would be held against them you’re fooling yourself.

OK, so you have no idea if what you are saying is true, but you will continue to say it? Why hurt fellow greeks in this way?

Also, if your chapter is the one who started/continues to spread the rumor, then apprently YOU are the reason their chance at expansion might be hindered. That's got to make you feel great...

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by FSUSigEpAlum
But about the AOPi witchcraft rumor…

While I have no idea if the rumor has even the slightest bit of credibility, I‘m pretty sure my chapter is responsible for it still being circulated 20+ years later. Sig Ep bought the AOPi house in 1980, and the witchcraft rumor has become part of the chapter’s folklore, passed from semester to semester, pledge class to pledge class. Stories like that tend to get a mind of their own over time, so I can only assume there is little basis in fact, but even the most outlandish tales are often wrapped around a kernel of truth. Whether or not they were kicked off campus for witchcraft I’m very interested in where that rumor originated. If anyone knows anything else about the FSU AOPi chapter I’d love to hear it.

We just found out why this rumor has been kept alive 25 years after the alleged incident: FSU Sig Eps.

ETA A quarter of a century! I find this pathetic and disgusting.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by russellwarshay
We just found out why this rumor has been kept alive 25 years after the alleged incident: FSU Sig Eps.

What a proud moment this must be for them.

It doesn't even make sense. How does anyone get kicked off campus for witchcraft anyway? I don't think that most schools have rules regarding what religion students can follow, do they?

[PhiPsiRuss]

Even though this sustained smear campaign has dishonored your chapter, and fraternity, your chapter can be redeemed. First, you, and other of your chapter's alumni should band together, and have a talk with your chapter. Tell them that it was wrong, and that it should be stopped. Then, issue a written formal apology to AOPi, and send a copy to FSU's PanHel. Finally, whoever is chosen to colonize, support them. I'm sure that there are plenty of independent girlfriends of FSU Sig Eps who would make great sorority members. And if AOPi is not chosen now, I'm sure that they eventually will be. Make sure that your chapter bends over backwards to assist them when the time comes.

[FSUSigEpAlum]

Wow that certainly wasn't received well.

First of all I never said it was true, I never said I thought it was true, in fact I said that I didn‘t think it was true at all, but I’m interested in how the rumor started .

As for my role in perpetuating it, I’m sorry but I’ve really never saw it as detrimental to anyone considering we don’t have an AOPi chapter and haven’t for 20+ years. I think this would be the least of AOPi’s expansion problem’s at FSU considering how Panhellenic handles expansion - or doesn‘t.

Finally, FSU Sig Ep has what amounts to ghost story concerning our house - there’s really little more to it then that. The intent of the story was obviously never malicious, and is actually a side note linked to another story within the fraternity. To call that disgusting, horrible, pathetic, or even to look into at as anything more then an stupid college urban legend is just silly.

Either way, nothing serves to extinguish a rumor faster then the truth. I’ve been curious about the origins of the rumor for a long time for just this reason - it’s outlandish and absurd. Sorry for getting some of you so upset, I guess curiosity just got the best of me.

[aopinthesky]

Originally posted by FSUSigEpAlum
Wow that certainly wasn't received well.

First of all I never said it was true, I never said I thought it was true, in fact I said that I didn‘t think it was true at all,

No, you did not say you didn't think it was true - this is what you did say:

>>>Stories like that tend to get a mind of their own over time, so I can only assume there is little basis in fact, but even the most outlandish tales are often wrapped around a kernel of truth<<<

What that sounds like to me is that you think there is some truth in there. That is the same thing as perpetuating rumors.

[Tippiechick]

Originally posted by FSUSigEpAlum


As for my role in perpetuating it, I’m sorry but I’ve really never saw it as detrimental to anyone considering we don’t have an AOII chapter and haven’t for 20+ years. I think this would be the least of AOII’s expansion problem’s at FSU considering how Panhellenic handles expansion - or doesn‘t.

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Originally posted by FSUSigEpAlum

As far as them coming back to FSU, if you don’t think a rumor like that would be held against them you’re fooling yourself. How long would it take before that chapter got pegged as “witches,” regardless of the validity of the claims?

You seem to be oblivious to the truth... It is the same thing as using someone's name and slighting them... Just because there is not a current chapter there is NO excuse for your chapter running down another GLO!!!!!!!

And, even you just admitted that it will/could be a problem for an AOII expansion effort -- no matter how small of a problem it might be...

It is really sad that you can't see your actions as being detrimental to AOII and Sig Ep !