"Talented" Artists - Page 2

Jadey28 · #1 01-21-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I'm not attacking anyone and I don't want to start an uproar, but I just don't see how Linkin Park is talented. I guess their DJ is pretty good, but they sound just like most other bands on the radio right now. Maybe it's because I don't like their style of music so I don't listen as closely, but would an LP fan please explain their intricacies?

IMO, unlike a lot of other bands out there, when playing live Linkin Park actually sounds like they do on their albums. Chester has an incredible voice and Mr. Hahn (sp?) is good at DJ-ing. When I think of talent, not only does sound come to mind, but whether or not they actually energize you. Can this performer last in times like today when "one-hit-wonders" are so common? How fast would their concert or performance sell out? Obviously, I am a LP fan, so I listen to their music more indepth. I guess it all depends on what you define as talent.

AznSAE · #2 01-21-2004, 01:12 PM

a talented artist i think is great is my girlfriend Mandy Moore

LeslieAGD · #3 01-21-2004, 04:59 PM

Gavin DeGraw (I would listen to him sing the phonebook!)
John Mayer
Jason Mraz
Amanda Marshall
Stacie Orrico
Norah Jones
India Arie
Christina Aguilera
Frankie J
Alicia Keyes
Pharell
Shakira
Stained
Linkin Park
Evanescence
Carlos Santana

KSig RC · #4 01-21-2004, 06:40 PM

Alicia Keys is a virtuoso piano player . . . I'm going to leave my personal feelings at just that. Her new song though? Doesn't do anything for me. At all.

Anyway.

In terms of actual vocal talent, there are millions of great singers around, but not many convert to great performers.

If you're talking about talented songwriters, Ted Leo comes to mind, as well as Conor Oberst (from Bright Eyes). The best pop songwriting out right now, in my opinion, comes from The New Pornographers, and not just because Neko Case has probably the best pop pipes available . . . the writing is top tier.

The new Outkast album breaks down a lot of walls with regard to 'what IS hip hop,' and Talib Kweli did something top tier with Quality. I know I'm on record as an Anticon apologist, but as a collective they top anything around (excepting maybe Def Jux, depending on what you like), check out Seven's Travels by Atmosphere for a good, accessible introduction to 'nerd-rap'.

Rob Swift's The Ablist is a masterpiece of turn table/ambient work, and Zero7's Simple Things is a more laid-back take on ambience. Both are very complete as CDs, and each track is emphasized by those around it . . . this sort of composition is a talent in and of itself.

I guess it depends on what you consider to be the definition of 'talented' . . . here's some suggestions though, and if you want I can go more in depth depending on what you like.

PhiPsiRuss · #5 01-21-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
[B]In terms of actual vocal talent, there are millions of great singers around, but not many convert to great performers./B]

I think that it is more accurate to say that talented people are often not marketable. Britney Spears has zero musical talent, but she is a very marketable product.

The music industry was run by people with musical backgrounds. Starting in the 1970s, this began to change. Today, you'd be hard pressed to find an executive with a music lable who has formal musical training. They have MBAs, but couldn't play a C scale on a piano of their lives depended on it.

The music industry today has more to do with image, then it does with music. It has become rare to sign a musically promising act, and actually develop them. The technology has also made the music worse. You can now take someone, like Britney, who does not have a very good voice, have her sing, and then postprocess her voice with Apogee ProTools to make sure that her voice is now in tune. You can make her match the beat, even though her sense of rhythm as a vocalist may be off. There is less incentive to get talented people, because talent is not needed to sell the product anymore. Well, to a point.

There is now a rebellion against the garbage, and its being fought in the marketplace. People just aren't interested in poor quality music.

The internet has also hurt the music industry, but its not just the internet. I've talked about this with a lot of music producers. The main problem with the music industry is that they need the quick sale that a Britney brings. Talent is time consuming. It has to be developed. Britney is not talent. She is product.

To address this problem, NYU has teamed up with a number of people in the music industry to start the Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music. Part of admissions is a musical audition. This program looks to teach people with a musical background all of the facets of the record industry. Such people will be able to spot, and develop, real musical talent. It will take years for this program to have an impact, but eventually, it will.

SATX*APhi · #6 01-21-2004, 07:11 PM

SHAKIRA, Peter Cincotti, Josh Groban, Norah Jones, Dixie Chicks, Brad Paisley, Martina McBride, Rascal Flatts, Jason Mraz, Matchbox Twenty, Rooney, Train, DMB, Goo Goo Dolls

SATX*APhi · #7 01-21-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
Shakira

Yay! Glad to see someone else mentioned Shakira.

UKDaisy · #8 01-21-2004, 07:18 PM

Russell - I pm'd you!

Hahaha... okay so lots of you are putting down Norah Jones. Which is really funny.... b/c I have a friend who when she drinks sounds exactly like that! So we all joke that Norah sounds like a drunk girl trying to sing. So when we're all together we start singing that song "i dont' know why i didn't call" really loud. Don't slam me for that.....

I agree with the Outkast album! Its really awesome. And Clay Aiken needs to marry me!

PhiPsiRuss · #9 01-21-2004, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by UKDaisy
Hahaha... okay so lots of you are putting down Norah Jones.

Who put down Norah Jones?

UKDaisy · #10 01-21-2004, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
Who put down Norah Jones?

Okay.....let me see :

Lil'Hannah
russellwarshay
Munchkin03
ZTAngel
_Opi_
Peaches-n-Cream
sigtau305
Geoffz
moe.ron
LeslieAGD

I think that's it.

SATX*APhi · #11 01-21-2004, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by UKDaisy

Hahaha... okay so lots of you are putting down Norah Jones. Which is really funny.... b/c I have a friend who when she drinks sounds exactly like that! So we all joke that Norah sounds like a drunk girl trying to sing. So when we're all together we start singing that song "i dont' know why i didn't call" really loud. Don't slam me for that.....

I love Norah's voice! It has a jazzy sound. When her first song came out, I thought she was older, way older. I saw her CD and was

because of how young she is. Wow. She's just awesome.

UKDaisy · #12 01-21-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by SATX*APhi
I love Norah's voice! It has a jazzy sound. When her first song came out, I thought she was older, way older. I saw her CD and was because of how young she is. Wow. She's just awesome.

Oh babe....I'm not making fun of you all for liking her. She is talented.....I just don't dig her music - that's all. She just reminds me of my friend. That's all...we all have our tastes!

Oh but I thought she was older too when my ex played her music for me.

PhiPsiRuss · #13 01-21-2004, 07:34 PM

We didn't put her down, we all praised her.

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Originally posted by UKDaisy
Okay.....let me see :

Lil'Hannah
russellwarshay
Munchkin03
ZTAngel
_Opi_
Peaches-n-Cream
sigtau305
Geoffz
moe.ron
LeslieAGD

I think that's it.

xok85xo · #14 01-21-2004, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
We didn't put her down, we all praised her.

by "put down" i believe she meant wrote down. as in "i put down my thoughts in my journal"

PhiPsiRuss · #15 01-21-2004, 07:39 PM

Ohhhhhhhhh! Thanks for the clarification.

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Originally posted by xok85xo
by "put down" i believe she meant wrote down. as in "i put down my thoughts in my journal"