Why you didn't make it into a sorority.

[33girl]

Originally posted by sairose
33girl I have PMd you.

received, and let's just consider this matter closed.

[sairose]

Sorry I misunderstood your point, James. I guess we all misread things sometimes.

[FSUZeta]

that just as some chapters on some campuses are highly selective in the ways they decide who is extended an invitation to join, that the same can be said for some pnm's? there will be some pnm's who would never consider joining a chapter that was not in the top tier on their campus, whose members weren't the
"campus queens" and were drop dead gorgeous. selection works both ways, and each side can be equally superficial when they make their choices.such is life.

[azdtaxi]

I think rush at Southern schools must be so different. The first time I went through rush I got cut completely first round. I found out later because of something weird to do with my gpa ... but I knew a lot of girls that got cut. I mean now its fine bcause I ended up where I am suppose to be but for ya'll to say that people only get cut because there is something seriously wrong witht them is just really wrong and makes pnm scared of rush.

[DGMarie]

I was just thinking, what if they had to tell you WHY they cut you?


BTW, the new Lilly Pulitzer Spring dress catalog arrived in the mail today. Who could cut a girl in a Lilly???

[Tippiechick]

I actually had someone at Ole Miss that rushed me and was in a class with me. After I was cut by this sorority, she told me later that she really wanted me, but some of the other girls thought my teeth were too big. No joke. They aren't crooked, I don't have any front teeth missing, no black teeth, etc. They were just a bit too 'big' for them.

I thought it was really an odd thing.

[sairose]

Originally posted by FSUZeta
that just as some chapters on some campuses are highly selective in the ways they decide who is extended an invitation to join, that the same can be said for some pnm's? there will be some pnm's who would never consider joining a chapter that was not in the top tier on their campus, whose members weren't the
"campus queens" and were drop dead gorgeous. selection works both ways, and each side can be equally superficial when they make their choices.such is life.

Actually, I HAVE considered that. I know this girl who is a friend of friends of mine...she's VERY superficial. She knew before she even came to college which sorority she wanted to be in. Mind you, she didn't know anyone in any of the sororities; she was just basing this decision on superficiality because she knew that this particular sorority is a top tier one at my school, and well, their girls are gorgeous. Mind you, they're wonderful girls, and super sweet. But she wasn't basing her choice on personality, but by image. She did end up in that sorority.

What's really sad, is that she looks down on the girls that aren't in the top tier ones.

I don't know about everyone else, but I joined my GLO because I liked the girls, and I meshed with them the best, and I felt at home with them, and I liked what they stood for. What a concept!

[exlurker]

Originally posted by DGMarie
I was just thinking, what if they had to tell you WHY they cut you? . . . .

Interesting comment! Some but not all NPC groups require a chapter to contact the relative (i.e., phone call, etc.) if a legacy is cut. At least that's what some legacy policies on national web sites say. I'd guess that would be a super fun conversation.

Turning it around, of course, what if PNMs had to tell chapters why they cut THEM?

Some things may be better left unsaid .

BTW, DGMarie, congrats to "Anchors Online" for really encouraging DGs to submit Sponsor Forms.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by exlurker
Interesting comment! Some but not all NPC groups require a chapter to contact the relative (i.e., phone call, etc.) if a legacy is cut. At least that's what some legacy policies on national web sites say. I'd guess that would be a super fun conversation.

We have to, and I was Rec Chairman. It is one of the best ways of training for the Diplomatic Corps that I can begin to think of!!

I can think of one legacy who had so much leverage that, the ONLY reason we didn't cut her was because absolutely no one - including our Alumnae Group! - wanted to call her relatives!!

[exlurker]

Originally posted by honeychile
We have to, and I was Rec Chairman. It is one of the best ways of training for the Diplomatic Corps that I can begin to think of!!

I can think of one legacy who had so much leverage that, the ONLY reason we didn't cut her was because absolutely no one - including our Alumnae Group! - wanted to call her relatives!!

honeychile,

That must have been a mess to live through -- my belated sympathy.

[James]

ttt

[KillarneyRose]

Originally posted by sairose
Actually, I HAVE considered that. I know this girl who is a friend of friends of mine...she's VERY superficial. She knew before she even came to college which sorority she wanted to be in. Mind you, she didn't know anyone in any of the sororities; she was just basing this decision on superficiality because she knew that this particular sorority is a top tier one at my school, and well, their girls are gorgeous. Mind you, they're wonderful girls, and super sweet. But she wasn't basing her choice on personality, but by image. She did end up in that sorority.

What's really sad, is that she looks down on the girls that aren't in the top tier ones.

UGH! This girl sounds like me, circa 1985.

All I can say is that I eventually grew up and quit being an obnoxious brat and hopefully she will too.

[reverie]

Reading this thread backwards makes for an interesting, yet slightly confusing read. This insomnia is killing me.

/tangent

I don't think there's any nice way that a sorority could cut you. It's not like they have the capacity to say something like, "We just knew you would mesh so much better with ABC," since that would be stereotypical as well.

Maybe they should make a cut with interest option. Something for the girls who fell through the cracks since they didn't stand out, so they would know they really need to be unique. But I don't know if that would get PNMs hopes up too much about being invited back later, or what other damage it could case.

[DZTUBAGIRL]

I know that my school is pretty small and recruitment isn't that harsh but I don't see much of the judging people by their looks. My sorority is known as the diverse sorority. We have all kinds of girls. We have the "pretty girls", the "big girls" and everything in between. This is why I wanted to be a DZ so much. Yes on my campus we have the "beautiful" sororities and the not so popular sororities but all in all I think that most of the sororities are equal.
The only problem that we have with the superficialness (don't know if that is a word), is people that come in and help with recruitment. I know that we have great consultants but some of them that we have had in the past have been horrible. It just makes me mad when a person who doesn't know us or our greek system walks in and tells us that we need to be more beautiful for recruitment. I can understand that we need to make a good impression but we also need to act like ourselves. They have actually said to us that we need to wear more makeup and such. It might be a shock to them but not everyone wears makeup. I think it makes us look fake when we are one way during the year and when recruitment comes around we are all trying to be supermodels...
Also it is a problem with these women coming in and only wanting the "cute girls". They aren't going to be in our chapter and they don't know what kinds of girls would mesh well with us. I hate to say it but a lot of the "pretty girls" that they pick for us have been worthless sisters and we never see them. I personally think that someone's personality is more important when I am looking at potential sisters but unfortunately not everyone feels this way.
Sorry I went on so long.

[33girl]

Originally posted by DZTUBAGIRL
I know that my school is pretty small and recruitment isn't that harsh but I don't see much of the judging people by their looks. My sorority is known as the diverse sorority. We have all kinds of girls. We have the "pretty girls", the "big girls" and everything in between. This is why I wanted to be a DZ so much. Yes on my campus we have the "beautiful" sororities and the not so popular sororities but all in all I think that most of the sororities are equal.
The only problem that we have with the superficialness (don't know if that is a word), is people that come in and help with recruitment. I know that we have great consultants but some of them that we have had in the past have been horrible. It just makes me mad when a person who doesn't know us or our greek system walks in and tells us that we need to be more beautiful for recruitment. I can understand that we need to make a good impression but we also need to act like ourselves. They have actually said to us that we need to wear more makeup and such. It might be a shock to them but not everyone wears makeup. I think it makes us look fake when we are one way during the year and when recruitment comes around we are all trying to be supermodels...
Also it is a problem with these women coming in and only wanting the "cute girls". They aren't going to be in our chapter and they don't know what kinds of girls would mesh well with us. I hate to say it but a lot of the "pretty girls" that they pick for us have been worthless sisters and we never see them. I personally think that someone's personality is more important when I am looking at potential sisters but unfortunately not everyone feels this way.
Sorry I went on so long.

Not long, it needed to be said. It's great to have help from consultants and/or alumnae but there's a difference between wanting the chapter to be its best and wanting the chapter to conform to an image it doesn't want - especially when the chapter is thriving as it is. I agree that it's great to have beautiful women and superinvolved women but if they're never around, it really doesn't matter how wonderful someone thought they were at rush.