Why you didn't make it into a sorority. - Page 3

James · #1 12-02-2003, 11:49 PM

LOL I probably wouldn't have put such a directly insulting comment in a rebuttal argument lol.

However, does your desire for me not to reproduce actually pertain to girls being cut by sororities? Or did you just want to take some random insults to Pm lol?

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
First of all, I kind of hope James never has children. So hopefully that is a nonissue.

James · #2 12-02-2003, 11:53 PM

You have talked to me, I am pretty detached. I would discuss the situation pretty lucidly and objectively with her.

If that didn't solve the problem, I would just buy her something really expensive.

I am with Rudey when he talks about Big Money jobs lol.

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Originally posted by Moxie
Let me pose a hypothetical situation:
James has a daughter who grows up and goes off to college! Daddy is so proud of his baby girl! She decides to rush and is cut hard and not offered a bid - she is very disappointed but decides to try again, perhaps by going to a few informal recruitment events. Maybe she is shy, maybe she is quiet - for whatever reason, she is not offered a bid during these COB events. Daddy's girl is upset and comes to him, asking what went wrong. Isn't she cute? Isn't she smart? What's wrong with her?!
I'd love to see Daddy smile and say, "Well, dear, you likely had not one single quality that either impressed or distinguished you from the herd to the groups that met you!"

Moxie · #3 12-03-2003, 12:07 AM

i was just messing with you

but as for buying her something really expensive - you can't go wrong

SmartBlondeGPhB · #4 12-03-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
conflicts with a girl in the house already

This will always be a big one..........

kddani · #5 12-03-2003, 12:26 AM

along with conflicts with a girl in a chapter- conflicts with alumnae! or alumnae that know you have a bad rep, nasty attitude, etc. from high school or elsewhere.

Dionysus · #6 12-03-2003, 12:49 AM

In sum...

If you don't get a bid from at least one house...YOU SUCK!

I hope you all know that I'm not being serious.

sugar and spice · #7 12-03-2003, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by James
LOL I probably wouldn't have put such a directly insulting comment in a rebuttal argument lol.

However, does your desire for me not to reproduce actually pertain to girls being cut by sororities? Or did you just want to take some random insults to Pm lol?

Hahaha, no.

I just meant that, if your GC persona is any indication, you would raise some rather f%$@ed up children. Especially if they're girls.

Of course, the way people act on an online message board isn't necessarily indicative of the way they'll act with their kids, so if you're actually a big cuddly supportive teddy bear kinda guy, go right ahead. And you certainly aren't the only person on GC that I would discourage reproduction for.

FSUZeta · #8 12-03-2003, 10:21 AM

one issue gcer's have been loathe to bring up is that of physical appearance - if your heart is set on being in xyz sorority and they are, for the most part, 6 ft tall, nordic blonde beauties, who all wear size 0 dresses , have gold plated saks charge cards,carry 4.0 gpas and all aspire to be brain surgeons, and you do not fit that category, that is why you did not receive a bid. if you weigh 200 to 300 pounds, that is why you did not receive a bid. appearance is one factor, and if you are not at least neat in appearance, with reasonably fashionable clothes, you will have to be stellar in other aspects to get invited back. it may seem harsh and superficial, but it is a factor. but, if one sits back and analyzes the situation and feels one falls into this category,and you still want to be in a sorority, you can do something about it-lose weight, check out some fashion magazines, get a new, more
up to date hair style. and i am speaking in general terms, not about a specific sorority, campus or pnm. i know that there are exceptions to every situation, but i also feel that we should be truthful with the pnm's.

33girl · #9 12-03-2003, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Hahaha, no.

I just meant that, if your GC persona is any indication, you would raise some rather f%$@ed up children. Especially if they're girls.

Of course, the way people act on an online message board isn't necessarily indicative of the way they'll act with their kids, so if you're actually a big cuddly supportive teddy bear kinda guy, go right ahead. And you certainly aren't the only person on GC that I would discourage reproduction for.

James is supportive when he wants to be.

SigKapKatzue · #10 12-03-2003, 11:42 AM

I say this is more discouraging then anthing to PNM's, this whole thread would turn me off from rushing... I don't think it's really do anything beneficial but hurting PNM's and changing their minds about how possibly superficial the greek system may be.

kddani · #11 12-03-2003, 11:54 AM

But it's realistic.

There are superficial aspects in each and every part of life.

Like a lot of people have said in various discussions.... it's like a job interview. You want to present yourself in the best possible light, which includes appearance. Yeah, it may not be "fair" or whatever could be argued, but IT'S LIFE.

And it varies from school to school. But one thing that will not vary is if you do not have pride in yourself, you will get cut (which includes pride in your apperance. Regardless of weight or money, you can be clean, presentable, and dress in a way that's flattering- 10 rolls hanging out isn't flattering on anyone).

When people don't take care of their appearance, they also tend not to take care of themselves on the inside as well. Yes, there are people who take care of themselves physically but are a mess inside. But if you care about yourself, then you want to present yourself in the best possible light.

Discotish · #12 12-03-2003, 12:47 PM

oceanphi01 · #13 12-03-2003, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
along with conflicts with a girl in a chapter- conflicts with alumnae! or alumnae that know you have a bad rep, nasty attitude, etc. from high school or elsewhere.

This doesn't always have to be the case. It really depends on the alumna sister as to how seriously you take her "concerns". This has happened in the past and we still initiated the person an alumna was concerned about and this person is one of my favorite sisters and is so devoted to Alpha Phi.

In all honesty, I wouldn't let it bother you too much. If you can't find your nitch in any of the groups on your campus, then feel free to start another one that looks for your same values. I know it sounds like a cop-out, but it's not. In the long run, those chapters that cut you may feel bad because you're stronger than they saw you to be and may regret it. Just don't give up hope.

jharb · #14 12-03-2003, 02:08 PM

There are a couple of reasons you might be cut and the main one is you just didn't mesh well with the girls you talked to during recruitment. I know there were girls I talked to during recruitment that some of my sisters loved coming into recruitment, but after talking to the girl for whatever reason I wasn't quite sure what my sisters saw in the girls. When you go in there to discuss your potential sisters you must trust what your sisters say and realize that the PNMs are nervous and might not always be at the top of their game. Maybe I'm just too accepting or nice, but I know going through recruitment I was a bundle of nerves and wasn't always my usual easy going self.

I do know that people go into recruitment with their heart set on one house and end up in another and that's sometimes where you were meant to be. That also means sometimes you just weren't right for the greek system at your university. I had a friend freshman year who transfered to Lehigh because she wasn't happy here and really wanted to go greek. She didn't feel like she fit in with any of the chapters here and when she got to Lehigh she instantly fit in with the Chi Os there!

maybe I'm just all sunshine and rainbows today

APhi Diva · #15 12-06-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Moxie
Let me pose a hypothetical situation:
James has a daughter who grows up and goes off to college! Daddy is so proud of his baby girl! She decides to rush and is cut hard and not offered a bid - she is very disappointed but decides to try again, perhaps by going to a few informal recruitment events. Maybe she is shy, maybe she is quiet - for whatever reason, she is not offered a bid during these COB events. Daddy's girl is upset and comes to him, asking what went wrong. Isn't she cute? Isn't she smart? What's wrong with her?!
I'd love to see Daddy smile and say, "Well, dear, you likely had not one single quality that either impressed or distinguished you from the herd to the groups that met you!"

Well put, Moxie!!