colonies - Page 2

bittebear · #1 10-08-2003, 04:05 PM

The greek advisor said that it was a panhellenic rule that all sororities had to be at total. She said if the council on campus decided to lower the number for total here, then expansion might be an opportunity, but she said lowering the number was next to never happening, so expanding was pretty much out of the picture.

Little E · #2 10-08-2003, 04:28 PM

Which school are you at? You don't have to say if you don't want to, I'm just curious.

Other than that, seriously look at the bylaws, why can't you have a local? I understand many school's reasoning behind this, but it really just may be that you can't be part of panhell.. good luck!

Tom Earp · #3 10-08-2003, 04:45 PM

This is the prime reason, myself and many Members of the Mens Fraternal Orgaizations disagree with The NPC!

At my old school of @ 6700 there are 3 Soroitys and 6 Fraternitys, the only reason is that the Soroitys are not meeting Numbers!

To me and others, it is BS!

Maybe the reason they are not making Numbers is the people in Those selected few are not the ones some possible new members are not interested in! As far as I know, ALL of the National Soroitys are good in their own right!

NPC does hold down the many women who may want to join saying join one of these or begone!

The small mentallity of that is underwhelming!

Why be forced to take women who do not want to join or want to find something different?

Building something New is an awesome thing to do! Speaking from experience!

If a Group cannot hold their own, then why force others to not be able to join something that they would rather do?

"For a lack of a Horse, the War was lost and we lose troops!"

breathesgelatin · #4 10-08-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Why be forced to take women who do not want to join or want to find something different?

Building something New is an awesome thing to do! Speaking from experience!

If a Group cannot hold their own, then why force others to not be able to join something that they would rather do?

Tom, we'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one. But let me say this: Because NPC sororities use the system of total and quota, and because of our national agreements, it's not practical or beneficial to us to allow new colonies to start up all the time. Formal rush, quota, and reputation combine to create a cycling of groups on campuses--one group is "uncool", loses numbers, leaves campus, another group comes, doesn't make a strong start, loses numbers, leaves campus.... and on and on. The reason most Panhellenic are reluctant to authorize expansion when not every group is at total--it leads to a needless cycling and wasted money of members and national NPCs. Most Panhellenics prefer to work on developing and strengthening all groups until expansion can be considered.

Now, if formal rush, quota, and the unanimous agreements were eliminated, everything would change. But there's no way in hell that's happening.

bittebear · #5 10-08-2003, 05:43 PM

I really agree with breathesgelatin and tom earpe. you both have really valid points. I do think it is narrowminded for this campus not to expand, but i can see the concern panhellenic would have with a weak starting group. however, i really have to say, this campus needs more sororities because nearly half of the girls dropped formal rush this fall. i think a new group with "fresh" girls would make a great addition to greek life.

#6 10-08-2003, 06:41 PM

sometimes bigger sororities won't vote for expansion because it might hurt their own numbers (even though numbers aren't everything and let's not start on numbers again!)

Kevin · #7 10-09-2003, 12:33 AM

NPC seems to have a different take on things than NIC groups. That's fine.

I can't speak for NPC groups, but I really think the NIC groups' "Survival of the fittest" attitude is the best for overall greek life. If your organization has been on campus for 100 years and can only keep 13 members at a time, yes, it deserves to be replaced by another organization that can operate with 100. That's what's good for Greek Life overall.

FuzzieAlum · #8 10-09-2003, 11:46 PM

I'm glad the NIC system works for you guys, but I don't think anyone's perspective on the good or bad of the Panhellenic system will help bittebear work within the system, which she really has no choice but to do at this point.

PhiRhoSister · #9 10-10-2003, 11:02 AM

There are always options, especially if you are at a public university.

If you are not already set on a NPC soroity, there are many non-NPC sororities to consider, please see thread -
http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=32212
There are also several christian focused social sororities that are not listed, but can be found by doing a search on the web.

Good luck in starting your dream. Remember it can be done!!