Real World 10

[lastpoetnsite]

much respect...

maxx5...no disrespect taken. *smile*
that is exactly my point...the brotha was annoying true enough...but instead of pointing out that...dag this dude is annoying...folx tried to go for the jugular to cut away at his manhood. that is not right. that is the part that really bugged me about the exchange about Segun.

there are a couple of things that we have to realize. the show is not live...it is cut and edited to suit the needs of Bunim/Murray. for the most part they are filmed 24/7 and as we all know our lives are not exciting day in and day out...and neither are theirs. the shows are cut to portray people as characters. for the most part people play up to that...with some exceptions (heather b. comes to mind).

so far Bunim/Murray have done an excellent job in accentuating the negative and down playing the positive. they have also played to peoples own taboo's and stereotypes. you don't think them shooting Segun being concerned with his looks one day...and him talking about homosexuality the next was coincidence? nah...he was set up to be a characature. and everyone fell for it.

its just something to think about.

oh and about talent. hmmm...i do agree that there are some talented people on there...but the reality is that most of those people got the jobs they are in because of the real world not in spite of. kevin and heather b. are two people who were doing their thing before and after the show.

peace


[This message has been edited by lastpoetnsite (edited July 03, 2001).]

[SweetestDiva]

Originally posted by Ideal08:
Soror, while I agree that we should be happy to be represented regardless, I don't agree that it is "always us" who make it an issue. I guess Asians wouldn't care. Why should they? Last time I checked, there was no such thing as a House Oriental and a Field Oriental, based on their skin complexion. We are STILL dealing with the repercussions (sp?) of this. The fact of the matter remains that there is STILL a color divide within our race, and it is perpetrated in the media. Now whether we want to admit that or not is another story. Jasmine Guy even touched on it in her IP. It's easier to say that it shouldn't make a difference or that it doesn't bother you when you are on the other side. When you grow up dark-skinned and you get teased for it, it's a different story. When you STILL (in 2001) hear ig'nant people say ish like, "You're pretty to be dark-skinned," it's a different story. Maybe that's why some people still pay attention to HOW we are represented on TV.

I agree.

[sharon36]

I have gotten really dissappointed in the Real World in the last few years. It's good to see some diversity in this cast, but in some ways, it's just as homogeneous as past years...is there anyone in the house over a size 4 that doesn't look like a model??? It seems more like this show is cast more like a Noxzema commercial than a show based on real life 3 dimensional people.

[BrandNubian]

Originally posted by sharon36:
I have gotten really dissappointed in the Real World in the last few years. It's good to see some diversity in this cast, but in some ways, it's just as homogeneous as past years...is there anyone in the house over a size 4 that doesn't look like a model??? It seems more like this show is cast more like a Noxzema commercial than a show based on real life 3 dimensional people.

You have a point there. I was just talking about this. In terms of weight and body size, everybody is pretty small, with the exception of Kameelah from Boston and Sharon from London. There is very little variety in terms of body size. So much for the Real World being realistic.

[ZChi4Life]

Originally posted by sharon36:
...is there anyone in the house over a size 4 that doesn't look like a model??? It seems more like this show is cast more like a Noxzema commercial than a show based on real life 3 dimensional people.

I was thinking the same thing. But then I gave them the benefit of the doubt and figured that maybe the more non-model type people aren't cut out for the show?? Perhaps the REAL women (i.e. the average weight, the average look type women) aren't trying out for the show?? If they are, maybe they're boring?? Or maybe they don't have anything to offer? I think w/ Kameelah and Sharon, both of them really represented well. I felt they were both interesting people and I enjoyed watching them on the show. Perhaps others that look more like them are hard to find?? <shrug> I don't know...just looking at it from another point of view.

On another note, it seems like when they air the tapes of people that didn't make the first cuts or whatever, you always see the more REAL looking people. But to me, those are usually the people that make a complete FOOL of themselves on their tape and don't deserve to get picked! Honestly, yes, they could have some more full-figured people on there. But as far as looks go, man, most of those chicks where TONS of makeup! If not TONS, they still wore some most of the time b/c they were on camera. Um, check out these girls on this new season! Rachel is the only one that isn't wearing a store full of makeup. But Lori, Coral, and esp Nicole...WHOA!! I think most of the rW women were/are pretty, but not super gorgeous. Even that Jacinda girl (RW-London) who WAS a model, wasn't all that!

Anyway, I think this season is gonna be good. I'm just thrilled to see all the peeps of color! Woo-hoo! It's about dang time! I think this is the first time I actually like everyone on the show. The only one I'm sorta if-fy about is Coral. Sometimes I'm feeling her and others times she sorta scares me. She seems like she'll just jump down your throat about anything! I don't know, but she puts ME on edge and I'm not even in the house! But I can't wait to see what this season brings! Hey, we should have RW chat after each episode and discuss our thoughts. Anyone down?

[Sugar_N_Spice]

Originally posted by ZChi4Life:
I think this is the first time I actually like everyone on the show. The only one I'm sorta if-fy about is Coral. Sometimes I'm feeling her and others times she sorta scares me. She seems like she'll just jump down your throat about anything! I don't know, but she puts ME on edge and I'm not even in the house! But I can't wait to see what this season brings! Hey, we should have RW chat after each episode and discuss our thoughts. Anyone down?

ZChi, I was just thinking the same thing about Coral when I was watching the show. Now I know that Mike shouldn't have made that ignorant comment (I tell ya...him and Jenifer Lopez must be distant cousins b/c folks are getting way tooooo comfortable...But Coral did not have to act like he didn't exist...Don't get it twisted I wouldv'e been mad too, but you can tell when a person is really racist b/c of hatred vs. they are racist b/c they don't know any better and they are making a consciuos effort to break out of that shell...And then when I re-watched the Casting Special I felt like she should have accepted that guy's apology after he pulled her in the pool (he didn't know...)...Anyway, did ya check out the clips at the end regarding the rest of the season...Coral and Nicole (she's cool but I agree she wears WAY toooo much makeup) GO AT IT!! I'm looking forward to this...

P.S. Can't y'all tell I'm out of school and I have no life Whateva!!

[SweetestDiva]

Okay, here goes what I thought about Episode 1:

LORI: Okay, the boy is not that cute. She needs to calm it down just a taste. I know their confessionals and the clips are grossly edited to make the storyline develop the way they want it to, but they're making her look like some kinda psycho.

MALIK: I like the way he's just cool about things... just chillin. I still say he's fine.

CORAL: Whoa, killer! This girl is out of control. It doesn't take much to push her over the edge, but the thing that bothers me is that she seems to pride herself on being unforgiving and intolerant.

NICOLE: Same as Malik.. just chillin.

MIKE: Po' thang. He doesn't know any better. But something tells me he will learn.

RACHEL: No opinion. Kinda boring.

KEVIN: Needs to be real with Lori. Otherwise, same as Rachel.

I can't wait to see the fight between Nicole and Coral.. I guess I'm just messy like that, but they did not look to be playing.

[Convinced]

Girl, I know! Who do you think is gonna win that fight?

Oh, Malik is toooo d*** fine!!!

[maxx5]

Is it just me...or did anyone else notice that the producers seem to really want sex to happen between the cast members? After seeing the casting special and listening to Nicole and Malik state their interest for each other, Lori and Kevin...and the kiss between Jisela and Sophia(who are going to be on Road Rules)...it seems as if the producers really try to encourage something sexual between the cast members.
What a cheap way to boost ratings...they need to be a little more creative. Don't you think? Maybe it's just me???!!!

[exquizit]

I agree that the fight will be one of the main things that will make me tune into theis season. You know eventually there was gonna be a fight between Coral and everyone in the house but she found someone to pick on that wouldn't back down! lol....I can't wait to see it....(I guess I'm messy like that too)

[SeriousAKA]

Hello everyone!!! I watched Real World last night and I am so EXCITED. I didn't watch the casting special but now I wish I had.

All I can say right now is that Coral is just like me!!! I would have handled the situation with the dude the same way. would have waited for him to come to me to either apologize or at least say something.

I can't wait until next week!

[MaMaBuddha]

i want malik to do something with his hair!!!

coral...what the hell is her problem??

[ZChi4Life]

Yes, I think the producers definitely wanted to see more peeps hook up this season. I mean, look at all the questions during the casting special. I'm assuming they edited a lot of the questions out to only show the ones about who wants to hook up w/ who, etc.

I think they are making Lori look like a psycho too. They did the same thing to Amaya on Hawaii. That's ALL they ever showed them talking about when they did those "confessionals" or whatever you call'em. Lori doesn't really seem like she'd be like that. Maybe to an extent, but dang! Everytime she talked, Kevin's name came outta her mouth! I don't know about that. I feel like Kevin is sorta saying one thing and doing another. Just like Lori said, he'll tell her he wants to wait and then be hugging her and stuff. She was all over him too, but she's not the one saying she wants to wait. I don't know...that's all just a mess.

I wonder what's gonna happen w/ Malik and Nicole. He's cute but the hair has got to be tamed!! I wish he'd stop picking it. I know you're probably supposed to, but it's getting on my nerves! And I'm not feeling all his facial hair that much either. He needs to braid the hair and trim up the beard, sideburns...alla that!
THEN, we can talk

Coral, Coral, Coral. She just needs to bring it back a few notches. I think she's gonna be that person that overreacts to everything! I just know that when she told ol' boy off, I was thinking, "Why didn't she just ask him where he derived at all of that stuff" and "Why not ask him if he believed any of the stuff that his uncle told him." I KNOW I would've said something to him, but I would've tried to find out where he got all that and if he thought it was true. I felt bad cuz he kept trying to tell her that he didn't mean it like that. Po' boy. Then she had to go and not talk to him. She just blew that outta proportion. Instead of telling him to stop talking or whatever, why not see where he's coming from and EDUCATE him!!

Ok, I'm done cuz I could go on and on.

[This message has been edited by ZChi4Life (edited July 04, 2001).]

[lovelyivy84]

Originally posted by Sugar_N_Spice:
What I meant was that b/c we live in the United States, some people in white America will no doubt streotype black men (or gay black men, or even gay men in general b/c, as Snoop says "Please Believe It", Segun (I think, But I know that I don't know him but even SweetestDiva said he is very feminine--not saying all feminine men are gay or vice-versa but, COME ON NOW!! ) is a closet homosexual if I've ever seen one--and I have...)...But, anyway, I was saying that I wouldn't want people making ignorant, negative stereotypes. Would you want them to put a black gang-banger or drug-dealer on the show??? I did not want Segun on the show not b/c he may be gay but b/c I did not like his attitude and seemed arogant, shallow (like when he was talking about how he values "Hoes"...WHATEVA!!), and immature. I value diversity just as much as the next person, but we have to draw the line somewhere. Don't get it twisted (cuz I don't) , I know there are MANY shallow, immature (like David acted sometimes on RW New Orleans...he got on my nerves sometimes), and ignorant black men in America, but I'd rather not see stereotypes perpetuated on tv.

YOu have to admit that at least David from New Orleans was good for a laugh! When he was trying to scat and started singing that "Come on be my baby" song I was on the FLOOR

[lovelyivy84]

Originally posted by ZChi4Life:
Yes, I think the producers definitely wanted to see more peeps hook up this season. I mean, look at all the questions during the casting special. I'm assuming they edited a lot of the questions out to only show the ones about who wants to hook up w/ who, etc.

I think they are making Lori look like a psycho too. They did the same thing to Amaya on Hawaii. That's ALL they ever showed them talking about when they did those "confessionals" or whatever you call'em. Lori doesn't really seem like she'd be like that. Maybe to an extent, but dang! Everytime she talked, Kevin's name came outta her mouth! I don't know about that. I feel like Kevin is sorta saying one thing and doing another. Just like Lori said, he'll tell her he wants to wait and then be hugging her and stuff. She was all over him too, but she's not the one saying she wants to wait. I don't know...that's all just a mess.

I wonder what's gonna happen w/ Malik and Nicole. He's cute but the hair has got to be tamed!! I wish he'd stop picking it. I know you're probably supposed to, but it's getting on my nerves! And I'm not feeling all his facial hair that much either. He needs to braid the hair and trim up the beard, sideburns...alla that!
THEN, we can talk

Coral, Coral, Coral. She just needs to bring it back a few notches. I think she's gonna be that person that overreacts to everything! I just know that when she told ol' boy off, I was thinking, "Why didn't she just ask him where he derived at all of that stuff" and "Why not ask him if he believed any of the stuff that his uncle told him." I KNOW I would've said something to him, but I would've tried to find out where he got all that and if he thought it was true. I felt bad cuz he kept trying to tell her that he didn't mean it like that. Po' boy. Then she had to go and not talk to him. She just blew that outta proportion. Instead of telling him to stop talking or whatever, why not see where he's coming from and EDUCATE him!!

Ok, I'm done cuz I could go on and on.

[This message has been edited by ZChi4Life (edited July 04, 2001).]

I disagree.

It did no tlook like he was talking to her, he was sitting down and staring at her waiting for her to acknowledge him which wasn't gonna happen. It was for him to approach her.

And you have to give her a lot of credit. Yo udid not see her yelling or screaming. She didn't hit anybody. She said she did not want to discuss it, and went on her way. When he apologised, she accepted his apology.

What more should she have done? I can't see that I would have handled it that differently.