Official 2003 NCAA Football Thread

[mullet81]

well apparently there will be a split national championship this year. If USC wins - i think the AP poll will put them at #1 and the ESPN/coaches poll automatically puts the winner of the BCS national championship at #1 - meaning there's no clear national championship this year. This years Rose bowl is going to be great! Too bad my team sucks too much to make it into a bowl or win more than 2 games

Originally posted by mullet81
Too bad my team sucks too much to make it into a bowl or win more than 2 games

Join the club.

Y'all know i'm pretty much a Sooner supporter when they aren't hanging 77 on my Ags, but the MNC should be USC-LSU. OU didn't win their conference and in my opinion that should preclude you from playing for a NC.

Remember 2 years ago when Nebraska didn't even make the Big XII champ game and lost to Miami in the title game. That should never happen.

Kitso
KS 361

[absolutuscchick]

eeeek!! I'm praying for USC!!!!

[UKDaisy]

Originally posted by mullet81
Too bad my team sucks too much to make it into a bowl or win more than 2 games

I'm with you on that one!!!!

[Steeltrap]

ESPN.com: College Football

Sunday, December 7, 2003
Computer system puts squeeze on USC

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By Brad Edwards
Special to ESPN.com

It might be the toughest ticket in the history of college football, and the party scene might be second only to Mardi Gras.

Oklahoma (12-1) and LSU (12-1) will be No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, when the final BCS Standings are released today (5:30 ET, ABC). This means the Sooners and Tigers will square off for the national title in the Nokia Sugar Bowl on Jan. 4 in New Orleans.


USC (11-1), which entered the final week of the season as the BCS' No. 2 team and enjoyed a 24-point win over Oregon State on Saturday, will finish third and meet No. 4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 1. The Trojans are the top-ranked team in both the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and The Associated Press' media poll and could still win AP's national title with a Rose Bowl victory. The coaches' poll is obligated to crown the BCS championship game winner as its national champion.

In the end, USC's schedule strength and computer rankings were not strong enough to hold off the Sooners and Tigers within the BCS formula. USC non-conference opponents Auburn, BYU, Hawaii and Notre Dame, along with conference foes Arizona State and Washington, all failed to live up to preseason expectations, which weakened the Trojans in every element except the minds of the human voters.

Despite its 28-point loss in the Big 12 championship game, Oklahoma held onto the No. 1 spot in most of the BCS computers, mainly because those ratings are no longer allowed to factor margins of victory or defeat. Those rankings, along with a very strong schedule, allowed the Sooners to hold their spot as the BCS' No. 1 team.

College football's last split national title came in 1997, when Michigan and Nebraska both went undefeated. The BCS was created after that season, presumably to assure that the top two teams in the nation would always meet on the field in a bowl game. Twice previously -- 2000 (Miami) and 2001 (Oregon) -- the No. 2 team in both of the voter polls did not reach the BCS championship game.

This is the first time in the system's six-year history that the No. 1 team in either poll has not finished in the top two of the BCS Standings.

Kansas State's win over Oklahoma for the Big 12 title gave the Wildcats an automatic BCS berth, likely in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. More than likely, they will take on Florida State, while Miami and Ohio State play a rematch of last year's national title game, this time in the FedEx Orange Bowl.

In the coaches' poll, the Trojans had 37 first-place votes and 1,542 points to the Tigers' 18 first-place nods and 1,516 points. Oklahoma still received eight first-place votes and 1,449 points.

Michigan (10-2) remained fourth in the poll, followed by Texas (10-2), Ohio State (10-2), Tennessee (10-2), Florida State (10-2), Miami (10-2) and Kansas State (11-3). Georgia (10-3) fell from fifth to 11th after its loss to LSU.

In the media poll, the Sooners fell to third after holding the top spot since the preseason. USC is No. 1 for the first time in 22 years, garnering 42 first-place votes (1,595 points). LSU (1,580) got 21, and Oklahoma (1,491) received the final two.

The Sooners had hoped to join Florida State in 1999 as the only teams to go wire-to-wire since the advent of the preseason poll in 1950.

Brad Edwards is a researcher for ESPN.


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[UKDaisy]

Okay, so here's what burns me up! UK almost beat LSU last year (if you don't remember this, make sure and watch ESPN"S classic screwups ) and LSU is now ranked 2nd in the nation. Yet, UK (w/ the same players) now can't even beat a powder puff team, ok so prolly a powder puff team - but you get my drift. GRRRRRR!!!!

I have to root for LSU I guess, b/c they're in the SEC! And I love having the SEC represented, unless its by UT.

[absolutuscchick]

I want to kill someone right now. Seriously, major changes need to be made to the system. This is so freaking not cool

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh...I'm SOOOOOOO mad right now!!!!

[The1calledTKE]

Go LSU show them what the SEC can do.

[mullet81]

here's how it will go:

Sugar: OU vs. LSU
Rose: Michigan vs. USC
Fiesta: K-State vs. FSU
Orange: OSU vs. Miami

[mullet81]

ohhh i was wrong!

Sugar: OU vs. LSU
Rose: Michigan vs. USC
Fiesta: K-State vs. OSU
Orange: FSU vs. Miami

Sucks for OSU, they have to go back to Arizona (not that there's anything wrong with Arizona - it's just more fun to go somehwere new )

[bethany1982]

The C needs to come out of the BCS.

Y'all wanna know the best part of the K-state win over OU?

Not only does K-State screw over OU, but the whorns get bumped from a top BCS bowl

And, since the Sooners still get to play for the title, no harm, no foul. Cept of course if you're a tea-sipping hippie down in Austin.

Kitso
KS 361 times its pretty sad when your team has a crappy year and you have to get enjoyment vicariously through the bitch-slapping of your rival.

[The1calledTKE]

Georgia plays Purdue, how exciting.

[chopper816]

the bcs needs to go away. I cant see how it can justify a team that didnt win its conference title playing for the national title. i didnt think nebraska deserved to go to the national title two years ago, and i dont think oklahoma deserved to go this year. one of the guys commented on this last night, every other division of football uses a playoff system. and since theres approx. a month between the last game and the bowl game, fill that time with a playoff, take all the conference champs, from the big east, big 10, pac 10, big 12, acc, sec, wac, mac, mountian west, conference usa and some at large teams and do a single elimination playoff. it would talk about the same amount of time if the teams played every week through december and into the first week of january. that way if a team like oklahoma gets beat, they dont get to play for the title b/c theyd be knocked out. this system would also give teams like tcu and boise state a shot at it.

[Kevin]

D I-AA and DII have been doing 4 round playoffs forever now.

I think it's a crock that some conferences don't play for a conference championship. Funny thing is that if USC had played someone in a Pac 10 champ game, they'd have probably improved their strength of schedule enough to beat out Oklahoma.

While I'd never hope for my team to win, I do enjoy seeing Texas make a trip to the Alamo bowl (or wherever).

OU is just as deserving as any of the top 3 to play in the NC game. A shot at #8. If you think about it, their loss was to a hell of a lot better team than USC lost to (California). In fact, the team that beat Oklahoma beat the team that beat USC. USC's spot in the polls is only because they lost earlier in the season.