Order of the Phoenix Spoiler Thread - Page 6

Bro2B · #1 06-26-2003, 01:08 AM

I'm a Neville fan myself but has it occurred to anyone else that the reason he was sometimes abysmal at magic, for instance Charms with Flitwick rings a bell when he was always screwing up spells, is because he doesn't even use his own wand.

We find out in OOTP that he's using his father's wand, which snaps in half. Doesn't the "wand choose its master" or something along those lines? Isn't Harry told that when he gets his wand that has a phoenix feather from the same bird that Voldemort's phoenix feather in HIS wand came from?

I think things will be looking up for Neville simply because he'll have a more suitable wand to use from now on, and maybe he will follow in his mom and dad's auror footsteps.

rainbowbrightCS · #2 06-26-2003, 09:17 AM

66% obessed

The theory of Neville some how being more important is very true, how he will be more imporant is the question. and some one mentioned that he uses his dad wand. I agree that his magic will be stronger now. and I almost cried when he put the wrapper in his pocket.

I love that Flitwick taped of the part of the swamp for Fred and George!

carnation · #3 06-26-2003, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by sherbertlemons

I wonder how often security guards in King's Cross stop people trying to make it on to Platform 9 3/4.

After the Narnia books came out, several children were caught trying to hack their way through the backs of wardrobes.

OUlioness01 · #4 06-26-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Bro2B
I'm a Neville fan myself but has it occurred to anyone else that the reason he was sometimes abysmal at magic, for instance Charms with Flitwick rings a bell when he was always screwing up spells, is because he doesn't even use his own wand.

We find out in OOTP that he's using his father's wand, which snaps in half. Doesn't the "wand choose its master" or something along those lines? Isn't Harry told that when he gets his wand that has a phoenix feather from the same bird that Voldemort's phoenix feather in HIS wand came from?

I think things will be looking up for Neville simply because he'll have a more suitable wand to use from now on, and maybe he will follow in his mom and dad's auror footsteps.

i didn't catch on to that until last night but i think you are completely right!

James · #5 06-26-2003, 02:16 PM

I gave mine a thorough inspection lol . . .

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Originally posted by carnation
After the Narnia books came out, several children were caught trying to hack their way through the backs of wardrobes.

MoonStar17 · #6 06-26-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Bro2B
I'm a Neville fan myself but has it occurred to anyone else that the reason he was sometimes abysmal at magic, for instance Charms with Flitwick rings a bell when he was always screwing up spells, is because he doesn't even use his own wand.

We find out in OOTP that he's using his father's wand, which snaps in half. Doesn't the "wand choose its master" or something along those lines? Isn't Harry told that when he gets his wand that has a phoenix feather from the same bird that Voldemort's phoenix feather in HIS wand came from?

I think things will be looking up for Neville simply because he'll have a more suitable wand to use from now on, and maybe he will follow in his mom and dad's auror footsteps.

if im not mistaken i read somewhere that ron also had a hand me down wand, from who i do not know...

i remember reading or seeing that somewhere...
?????
anyone know??

DWAlphaGam · #7 06-26-2003, 06:03 PM

Re: Neville's dad's wand. I noticed that, too. The first thing I thought when he said it was his dad's wand was, "Oh! That's why he was always so bad at magic."

Re: Ron's wand. He had a hand-me-down wand (I think maybe Charlie's?) until it was broken in the Ford Anglia/Whomping Willow accident in CoS and kept backfiring on him (eww! slugs!). He got a new wand at the end of that book or the beginning of PoA, I can't remember which. His new wand has unicorn hair in it. I saw a theory somewhere (I think it was on the HP Lexicon) that the unicorn hair in his wand is not a good omen for Ron surviving the series, because of the unicorn killings in PS/SS and because Cedric's wand had unicorn hair as well.

Re: Percy turning Death Eater. Sorry, I still don't see it, either. He's too concerned with following the rules, and I can't see him being angry or evil enough to be willing to break the rules and use crucio or avada kedavra on someone. Although, making Percy a DE would be a good plot twist on JKR's part.

ETA: I'm only 39% addicted.

DWAlphaGam · #8 06-26-2003, 06:17 PM

I looked up the thing about the wands from my last post. It's here: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wands.html

SigmaChiCard · #9 06-27-2003, 05:24 AM

Well, it's 20 til 5 in the morning, and I've just finished OotP. My only source of anger and frustration is that when I read the first 4 a few years ago, I was able to read all four at once...and only 870 pages after I started I already have to wait again!

Not that JK would write to reflect the film, but I really thought she might have Dumbledore killed as a means of respect to the actor who has played him in the movies. I thought it would surely be him. I'd hoped it'd be Percy somehow. Also, at the start of the book, I thought perhaps Aunt Petunia may have in her youth shown an inclination towards wizardry, but had repressed it. That would have indicated her knowledge and her reasons for always wanting to appear perfectly normal.

Damn Harry can be illogical....of course he's so well written because he's 15.... of course he's going to rave and misinterpret. But I love how you can already see the distinction between him and his father with how he handles Luna, he sympathizes for her despite thinking her odd, while it was the grounds upon which James tormented old Servius. I like that. It's part of what makes him better, he's filled a little more with love.

I wonder what will become of Dumbledore though...he can't make it in the end...If he does then Harry will always have had a greater authority helping him....though he has done most everything on his own...he hasn't been ENTIRELY ALONE, and that'll make a difference I should think. Although I agree that Neville, with his courage building and the members of the DA growing more competent should prove useful, unlike the ignorance of seemingly all of the Slytherin side, save for Draco who will no doubt be the 2nd to the last to be defeated, and will probably injure one of the other 2, Herm or Ron.

I found it kind of funny that it was the slytherin's who were helping professor umbridge, who in essence only was there to further conceal the dawning that Voldemort has returned, when it was a slytherin there were helping by denying his return, and discrediting those who said otherwise.

Was there no house cup? if so, who won?

I really enjoyed this one though.....some of JK's characters got on my nerves SO MUCH, I wanted to tear them from the story, but how great a writer one must be to write a character who gets under your skin the way Prof. Umbridge and Fudge do?!?!

KappaStargirl · #10 06-27-2003, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaChiCard

I really enjoyed this one though.....some of JK's characters got on my nerves SO MUCH, I wanted to tear them from the story, but how great a writer one must be to write a character who gets under your skin the way Prof. Umbridge and Fudge do?!?!

Professor Umbridge gets under your skin, eh? Interesting choice of words

oceanphi01 · #11 06-27-2003, 01:01 PM

I finished the book in a day and a half! Yes, I read it non-stop, but still....it was good. I thought it was a little darker than the other books and the comparison between Harry and Neville is amazing. They are complete opposites and I can't wait until the next one (hurry up already!). Percy needs to be smacked or something because all through the book I just wanted to throttle him. Stupid boy! Anyway, now I'm re-reading the whole series (have a lot of time on my hands when I'm not working).

SigmaChiCard · #12 06-27-2003, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by carnation
I'm still wondering about the Sirius/Stubby comments in the book!

I thought that too as I read it, was it just incidental that the initials of whom Luna Spoke was S.B. ? I mean she knew it was the one known as Sirius....it was odd

Also....what's this Wand Order thing? Am I missing or forgetting something?

DWAlphaGam · #13 06-27-2003, 05:06 PM

Has anyone seen the Prince Albert Hall transcript on MuggleNet? JKR seems to be implying that Snape isn't what he seems...So, do you think she means it or do you think she wants to throw us off?

lauralaylin · #14 06-30-2003, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
Has anyone seen the Prince Albert Hall transcript on MuggleNet? JKR seems to be implying that Snape isn't what he seems...So, do you think she means it or do you think she wants to throw us off?

I saw that live (online), and I was so upset when she said that. She made two references to him not being what we think he is. I am a huge Snape fan, and I so want him to end up on the good side. I just don't think I can wait for the next book!

SoCalGirl · #15 06-30-2003, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaChiCard

Was there no house cup? if so, who won?

I almost missed it too. It was the Quiditch match going on when Hagrid took Hermoine and Harry to see his brother. I had to flip back a few pages to figure out why Slitherin wasn't in it. I found it ironic that Hermoine? comments that she thinks Ron will do better with out his brothers there and he actually did better without his best friends there. Even though he didn't know it at the time.

Mini Rant:
Hermoine's parents are muggles and I think live in London too. So why the hell can't Hermoine pick up a damn phone, send a normal letter, or Heaven forbid actually go to Privet Drive and visit Harry?!?