Order of the Phoenix Spoiler Thread - Page 10

abaici · #1 07-06-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
This doesn't really have anything to do directly with The Order of the Phoenix, but it is Harry Potter related.

I was just watching the video of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and something occured to me. Harry's Aunt Petunia is a muggle, and I am assuming her parents are muggles.
Both of Hermione's parents are muggles. I am wondering how a witch or wizard can be born to 2 muggle parents? How does this work? Was it even explained in the books and I just missed it.

What are your thought?

It was not explained and it is curious indeed.

The1calledTKE · #2 07-06-2003, 08:33 PM

In my opinion I think Harry was angry so much because he was channeling Voldermort with their conection they had. I hated Percy in this book, I wouldn't mind seeing him get knocked off. Abandoning his family and Harry like that. I wish she would have shown the Weasly reaction to the twins opening the joke shop more.

lauralaylin · #3 07-06-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
This doesn't really have anything to do directly with The Order of the Phoenix, but it is Harry Potter related.

I was just watching the video of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and something occured to me. Harry's Aunt Petunia is a muggle, and I am assuming her parents are muggles.
Both of Hermione's parents are muggles. I am wondering how a witch or wizard can be born to 2 muggle parents? How does this work? Was it even explained in the books and I just missed it.

What are your thought?

I'm guessing the same way squibs are born?

OUlioness01 · #4 07-06-2003, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
This doesn't really have anything to do directly with The Order of the Phoenix, but it is Harry Potter related.

I was just watching the video of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and something occured to me. Harry's Aunt Petunia is a muggle, and I am assuming her parents are muggles.
Both of Hermione's parents are muggles. I am wondering how a witch or wizard can be born to 2 muggle parents? How does this work? Was it even explained in the books and I just missed it.

What are your thought?

magic must be a recessive trait or something....like blonde hair, blue eyes, or lefthandedness

Lady Pi Phi · #5 07-06-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by lauralaylin
I'm guessing the same way squibs are born?

I've read all the books, but I'm not sure what exactly a Squib is. Can someone explain it to me?

DolphinChicaDDD · #6 07-06-2003, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I've read all the books, but I'm not sure what exactly a Squib is. Can someone explain it to me?

A squib is a non-magical person who is born to two magical parents.
Filch is a squib.

Lady Pi Phi · #7 07-06-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
A squib is a non-magical person who is born to two magical parents.
Filch is a squib.

Ahhh...thanks

DWAlphaGam · #8 07-07-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
A squib is a non-magical person who is born to two magical parents.
Filch is a squib.

So is Arabella Figg.

DolphinChicaDDD · #9 07-07-2003, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
So is Arabella Figg.

Right, I couldn't remember her name, and my mom has my copy in Florida. At least my book got to go on vacation.

Does anyone think that the Weasly's are going to return to finish their final month of school? Is there possibly a G.E.D version of N.E.W.T.s??
Just thinking, hope some kid doesn't read about them and think that its ok to drop out of school...Probably thinking to much, but eh, I would like to see them finish school. Even if they are already highly successful at the joke shop.

Lady Pi Phi · #10 07-07-2003, 06:59 PM

I don't think Fred and George will return to school.

N.E.W.T.s are like A levels. It's kind of hard to explain the British system, but O.W.Ls and the wizarding equivilent to O levels (ordinary) levels. A levels come next. They are very hard, and not many people pursue them. My mother doesn't have her A levels. Since N.E.W.T s, I am assuming are like A levels, they are not mandatory, and Fred and George most likely would not have completed them anyway. They said several times that they were not interested.

However, I do believe that Fred and George will be popping in from time to time in the next 2 books to help Harry and the Gang.

DWAlphaGam · #11 07-08-2003, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
However, I do believe that Fred and George will be popping in from time to time in the next 2 books to help Harry and the Gang.

It would be funny if Voldemort was defeated by Harry feeding him some Skiving Snackboxes.

MysticCat · #12 07-08-2003, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
It would be funny if Voldemort was defeated by Harry feeding him some Skiving Snackboxes.

I love it!

I think a house elf (maybe Dobby) and maybe other magical creatures will figure in somehow. We have Hermione's whole S.P.E.W. thing, and on re-reading Harry 4 with my son, I am seeing that there is a running thing on house elves being forbidden from using wands -- one of the things Hermione wants to change.

Then there is whole thing about the statue in the Atrium of the Ministry of Magic, with the house elf and the centaur. One centaur, Firenze, has come to Hogwarts, at great personal cost. I'm thinking that more than just wizards and witches will participate in the defeat of HWMNBN, and that the result may be new relationships between witches and wizards and "magical creatures."

#13 07-08-2003, 03:45 PM

This isn't about OoP but just something about Percy turning to the dark side.

I'm rereading all the books now, and am on Chamber of Secrets. When Harry, Ron, Hermione and the group go to get their school books, Fred and George happen along Percy reading a book entitled, "Prefects who have gained Power" or something to that effect.

IMO, it's foreshadowing of Percy's ambition and that ambition may be something that Voldemort plays off of. Also, somewhere in this book the comment is made about Voldemort and how he recruited his followers, that he explained that there was no good or evil, merely power and those who had it or were too afraid to take it.

I can see Percy being drawn to Voldemort for the power he desires.

Kitso
KS 361

Lady Pi Phi · #14 07-08-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
This isn't about OoP but just something about Percy turning to the dark side.

I'm rereading all the books now, and am on Chamber of Secrets. When Harry, Ron, Hermione and the group go to get their school books, Fred and George happen along Percy reading a book entitled, "Prefects who have gained Power" or something to that effect.

IMO, it's foreshadowing of Percy's ambition and that ambition may be something that Voldemort plays off of. Also, somewhere in this book the comment is made about Voldemort and how he recruited his followers, that he explained that there was no good or evil, merely power and those who had it or were too afraid to take it.

I can see Percy being drawn to Voldemort for the power he desires.

Kitso
KS 361

That is an excellent observation. I can see you being right about it too.

I guess the moral of her stories are "power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely".

SigmaChiCard · #15 07-08-2003, 04:07 PM

There are a couple differnt covers.

I really think that the observation made about Percy having read that book could very well be a forshadowing of his tending towards the evil side. He has been from the beginning a very attention-seeking, power-hungry character. I think your observation of this is great.

I can never remember, who of Harry's grandparents were magical?