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11-14-2004, 05:56 AM
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okay...
thanks, Stan; you seem to have a pretty good handle on things.
Was not trying to stir up things, simply still do not understand
why IFC's are split, more differences now than 40 yrs ago. But,
the torch is passed...again, thanks, Stan
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11-14-2004, 09:49 AM
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I don't think you were trying to stir things up. I kind of agree that IFCs are a lot more split up than they used to be. I remember alumni before talking about how IFC would help each other with rush and other all greek activities. Now, EVERYTHING is survival of the fittest.
The underlying perception of the cultural GLOs is still all on who you talk to here, but I do have friends in those houses, and they're just a different type of greek, just like IFC greeks are not the same as NPHC greeks. I also believe we're a very different greek campus compared to more traditional greek life at other school. Perhaps you just haven't seen a campus like ours yet.
Whatever though...we're all Greek, and elitism rules!
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04-13-2008, 10:31 AM
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I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.
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04-13-2008, 11:26 AM
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I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.
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Honestly, I feel the same way. When I was in college, about a week after I got initated into ADPi, a "Latina" GLO on my campus was recruiting on the campus green by the Student Union. As I passed they tried giving me an info brochure and I politely declined and then the girl went on to say about how they are for Latinas and how they accept hispanic women and whatnot. I told them I had already joined a sorority and politely declined again and kept walking. (I was also wearing a letter shirt that day? So maybe they just didn't see I was already greek?)
My sorority accepted me just fine, but thanks for offering.
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04-13-2008, 11:42 AM
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Honestly, I feel the same way. When I was in college, about a week after I got initated into ADPi, a "Latina" GLO on my campus was recruiting on the campus green by the Student Union. As I passed they tried giving me an info brochure and I politely declined and then the girl went on to say about how they are for Latinas and how they accept hispanic women and whatnot. I told them I had already joined a sorority and politely declined again and kept walking. (I was also wearing a letter shirt that day? So maybe they just didn't see I was already greek?)
My sorority accepted me just fine, but thanks for offering.
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A Latina sorority is not the same thing as a Multicultural sorority.
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04-13-2008, 11:59 AM
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A Latina sorority is not the same thing as a Multicultural sorority.
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Yes I realize they are not the same, but it made me feel like they were trying to imply that no other sorority on campus would accept me because I wasn't blonde w/ blue eyes or something when that simply was not the case.
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04-13-2008, 11:28 AM
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I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.
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I'd suggest you look into the many threads where mglo's have been discussed. You might find that it goes beyone "respect of all cultures"
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04-13-2008, 11:30 AM
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I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.
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I agree.
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04-13-2008, 11:41 AM
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I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.
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The irony.
Educate yourself, as Ch2tf has suggested, and you will see that this has been discussed many times in many ways, all of which refute your notions of what MCGLOs are about.
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04-13-2008, 11:54 AM
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The irony.
Educate yourself, as Ch2tf has suggested, and you will see that this has been discussed many times in many ways, all of which refute your notions of what MCGLOs are about.
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I do think is should be pointed out that Kevin didn't discuss "what MCGLOs are about". He stated why a statement that I have seen over and over again carries an implication that he doesn't like. The GLOs in question may not have meant to imply that other GLOs don't respect multicultural members, but I have to agree that I have a similar reaction when I read some MCGLO material.
I have far too many sisters of every size, shape and hue to believe that my GLO doesn't value women for those things we share - our intellect, our character, our love for one another - and doesn't discriminate on the basis of our differences.
I'm all for right of association. If you find sisterhood in a GLO that emphasizes your particular culture then good for you. The more, the merrier. But I do wish MCGLOs would emphasize their missions without seeming to have to imply that they and only they offer a multicultural sisterhood or a sisterhood that will embrace the pnm's culture.
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04-13-2008, 11:56 AM
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The irony.
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I agree.
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04-13-2008, 03:01 PM
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The irony.
Educate yourself, as Ch2tf has suggested, and you will see that this has been discussed many times in many ways, all of which refute your notions of what MCGLOs are about.
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I was responding to a statement made by the individual about 2-3 posts above mine. I didn't use quotes, but apparently, you're the only one who wasn't able to figure that out.
I'm not responding to the mission-statement or anything like that, just the assertion that MCGLOs are the only organizations which will respect all cultures. An individual made that assertion, or rather asserted that by negative implication. I indicated that such a statement is ignorant and offensive.
There's no way around it though -- the very name "Multi Cultural GLO" implies that other organizations are not -- something which just isn't true.
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04-13-2008, 03:04 PM
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I was responding to a statement made by the individual about 2-3 posts above mine. I didn't use quotes, but apparently, you're the only one who wasn't able to figure that out.
I'm not responding to the mission-statement or anything like that, just the assertion that MCGLOs are the only organizations which will respect all cultures. An individual made that assertion, or rather asserted that by negative implication. I indicated that such a statement is ignorant and offensive.
There's no way around it though -- the very name "Multi Cultural GLO" implies that other organizations are not -- something which just isn't true.
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Good for you, Kevin.
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04-13-2008, 03:08 PM
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There's no way around it though -- the very name "Multi Cultural GLO" implies that other organizations are not -- something which just isn't true.
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Kevin, don't you get it? They don't care if it is true or not! It's all about them, you see - and if we, members of the oldest GLOs, think otherwise, we need education.
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04-13-2008, 03:09 PM
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Kevin, don't you get it? They don't care if it is true or not! It's all about them, you see - and if we, members of the oldest GLOs, think otherwise, we need education. 
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Your entitlement slip is showing again.
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